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    Anyone know of any heel-toe shifters available for the ST? I have had these on my bikes before and find them much more user-friendly than just a toe shifter.

    I can do fine with a toe shifter but a heel-toe shifter means no probing to get under the lever, lifting up with your toe (forcefully enough not to 'slip' into N), no 'mistakes' on going up or down... it is stamp down with toe to go low, stamp down with heel to go high...don't know how many here have used a heel-toe shifter before...

    And yes, the search function did not bring me any joy on this matter....

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    I've never seen one, and in fact, the only BMW I've ever seen one for was the R1200CL.
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    You tend to only see them on little bikes sold in Asia. I've always assumed because they all wear Safety Jandels (thongs, flip flops or whatever you call them locally) so getting your toe under the shift is painful, esp. as the shifter is often cast.

    Real bike have always only had toe shifters.

    Which of course makes the 1200CL not a real bike

    BTW: I hate them they are so bloody difficult to use. It takes all sorts.......


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    Only bkes (other than mentioned above) that I remember seeing them on were the police KZ1000s (think CHiPs from back in the day). I imagine a machine shop could fabricate one if you really want one bad enough.

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    I know this is an old thread, but I've recently fitted a heel/toe shifter fabricated from stainless steel by a friend of mine. As I have a painful joint in my left big toe, it's been a boon, and the use becomes quite natural after a short while. FYI anyone else who might be interested.

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    hi max, I made the same thing on my F800S due to a neuropathy, but then I changed the bike and with the new bike I had not any problem to use a normal shifter. probably in some old album you can find the photo of that shifter. anyway you have done a good job.
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    "Which of course makes the 1200CL not a real bike "

    Smacked that nail on the head!

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    Good alternative solution, Guido! For anyone else interested, the key thing is to have the heel and toe parts 15-20 m.m. above a line connecting them through the top of the footpeg. See pic below.
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    Mad Max.... The ladies want to know, what's your shoe size? That's quite a span between the toe piece and the heel piece.
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    The way this works is: instead of hooking your toe under the front/toe piece to shift up, you slide your foot slightly back on the footpeg so the ball of your foot is on the peg, and kick down. It's easy to feel the heel piece under the heel of your boot. The toe part matches the original. Shoe size is pretty irrelevant. For what it's worth, though, I have a relatively small foot for a bloke: approx AUS/UK size 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidoveloce View Post
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    That is unnatural and contrary to the laws of god and man. I suppose your passenger could shift for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxon View Post
    That is unnatural and contrary to the laws of god and man.
    but can be very useful if you have a peripheral neuropathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    Good alternative solution, Guido! For anyone else interested, the key thing is to have the heel and toe parts 15-20 m.m. above a line connecting them through the top of the footpeg. See pic below.
    I've never get used to push the rear lever with the heel, I used the tiptoe as it was a sort of inverted gear lever. and it was even more rapid than to lift the normal lever. I've done this job due a neuropathy, but when I've changed the bike I've seen that with a more sporty riding position it was much easier to change in the normal way. then the quick shifter can help a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor View Post
    You tend to only see them on little bikes sold in Asia. I've always assumed because they all wear Safety Jandels (thongs, flip flops or whatever you call them locally) so getting your toe under the shift is painful, esp. as the shifter is often cast.

    Real bike have always only had toe shifters.

    Which of course makes the 1200CL not a real bike

    BTW: I hate them they are so bloody difficult to use. It takes all sorts.......


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    I had one on my step through when we lived in Laos. The bike also had a reverse gear change pattern.

    At first I didn't use the heel shift but once I got use to it, it worked fine.. It was also my main form of transport. I covered 32,000 trouble free kilometres in eight years on that bike and gave it away when we moved back to Australia.

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