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    Can they tell us exactly where the fuse panel is on the F8 and 658?

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    Sorry to blow your bubble but it seems to me that a tilt switch, fuse, and some wire would do the same thing for a lot less than $69.00

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    Wait for the Wunderlich, Touratech, Motorrad versions that have a different color of wire and another zero on the price.
    Now, maybe their marketing wizard can show us Mr. Fuse Panel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PegasusJockey View Post
    Sorry to blow your bubble but it seems to me that a tilt switch, fuse, and some wire would do the same thing for a lot less than $69.00
    $69 hardly seems like alot of cash considering. Easy to armchair QB ideas after the fact.
    Good on him for taking the initiative.

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    $69 hardly seems like alot of cash considering. Easy to armchair QB ideas after the fact.
    Good on him for taking the initiative.
    I don't blame anyone for inventing something and making some money at it. Good on them. I've been trying for years...still poor and that's the point, $69 is a lot to me and I can see that the design is so simple that shouldn't cost half that much and they would still be making a nice profit.
    You can buy a tilt switch for about $2.00, a fuse & holder for maybe about $3, wire for 22 cents a foot or so, some connectors for another couple of bucks. So lets say about $10.00 and that is retail prices. Buying those items in any kind of quantity sould cut the price in half at least so i stand by my opinion.

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    And keep standing by it.
    It's like the $100 gutted Chinese airpump in a metal box.
    How about someone armchair quaterbacking and finding the fuse panel on the F800 and F650GS?
    The guy went riding alone, had a get off, and was found. He believes he was found because of the light and horn functioning after the crash.
    And what happens if the crash is severe enough to bugger your electrical system? Then you are found the old fashioned way.
    There is a good case to be made then for marketing a "friendly person might stop and help you" device, too.

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    Get over the fuse panel guys. To each their own. Buy it, don't buy, build your own, whatever.
    Not everyone here rides BMW only. The guy is marketing to riders period.

    He believes he has provided riders with an additional option that may help get your sorry ass home if you hit the rhubarb.
    I will let you get back to trying to fill your half empty glass then.

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    Hey, not everyone is a sheep, get over the fact that some people ask genuine questions.
    If these questions go unanswered or ignored that speaks for the management of the product.
    When you market something you should understand the market and the machine it will
    be mounted on.
    It's your money, spend it as you wish, go ahead and buy one, mount it, and then post on here how
    you did it with some pics. Then sit back with your half full glass.

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    Sheep? Whatever gets you through the night.

    Your posted question was more rhetorical than genuine as you know there is no fuse panel per se.
    I addressed the potential for F8 owners having other bikes in the stable as a reason to market on this site as well.

    Thanks for the well wishes and here's hoping you never find yourself in need of such a device.

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    Love the expression "hit the rhubarb" and plan to borrow it. Thanks.

    If we're going to get technical, all glasses are full all the time, such as half water/half air.

    My $69 will stay in my pocket, but I reserve full-on disapproval for products which are out-and-out scams. This one makes no outrageous claims, but is in my humble opinion a waste of money.

    -dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by silver970 View Post
    Sheep? Whatever gets you through the night.

    Your posted question was more rhetorical than genuine as you know there is no fuse panel per se.
    I addressed the potential for F8 owners having other bikes in the stable as a reason to market on this site as well.

    Thanks for the well wishes and here's hoping you never find yourself in need of such a device.
    Gee, I know the bike has no fuse panel but the guy marketing the device to me has no idea.
    What's wrong with that picture?
    Sorry, just another rhetorical question.
    Where I ride is markedly different from where you ride. In fact, I spend a lot of time where roads are transited only a few times a day and there will likely be a sheep or goat herder coming by than a vehicle. Do you think a horn and light show is going to make any difference to them? But thanks for your kind thoughts, anyways.

    I'll bet that if enough people fit these, Starbuck's will soon take legal action because of the noise complaints from latte sippers when the ADV riders fall over in the parking lots. On second thought, the OEM horn on these bikes is akin to a moped's with some Napoleon complex, maybe the marketing slogan for the product should be...."With CrashAlert, no one can hear you scream". LOL!

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    "...Starbuck's will soon take legal action because of the noise complaints from latte sippers when the ADV riders fall over in the parking lots."

    Pretty harsh, but I have to admit, pretty damn humorous too.

    -dan
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    Hey this is Jim,

    I own 7 sport bikes, (don't own a car!) (I like to distance ride on sport bikes), and don't own a BMW yet!, but I am looking for a new bike in a year or so I like the S1000 RR.
    Sorry about the delay, been riding, snow is coming, and I will be ride limited soon.

    We have read your comments. Crash Alert can be directly attached to your battery, the fuse panel hook up is for riders that don't have "the knack" . Just using a $2.00 tilt switch will not work because every curve you enjoy will set it off. Motorcycle horns are intermittent duty, (they overheat and quit working after 4 minutes).
    Crash Alert has a micro controller that constantly evaluates position Information from the crash sensor, and then activates a siren in the event of a valid crash until vehicle battery is depleted, it has an output to activate a GPS location & rescue device. A stock horn would quit after the battery gets below 9 volts, the Crash Alert Siren will sound when the battery is depleted down to 2.5 volts. The device is plastic cast, otherwise you can run over it with a truck and not damage anything. You can't kill it! - you can hook it up backwards and it will not damage anything!. We have 36,451 in the field!,

    Just want to save lives. (I am serous about this)

    Hey - MikeMike, Pegasus Jockey, Silver970, danham, email me your shipping address, I have been authorized to send you a Crash Alert kit FREE! (just install it, and evaluate it for us) Reply here, or email me directly : motorcycles@hughes.net

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    If you are serious, I am in. Good to see you will rise to the challenge. I, too, do not own a car, my bike is my transport nowadays. I live in Mexico and ride mixed surfaces and most of my mileage is done alone and off the beaten path.
    I will fit your product and test it for you at elevations from sea level to more than 14,000ft in temps from below zero to over 110f and in torrential rain, high humidity, and sleet conditions.
    If it stands up and does what it says with no problems, I will write you a review with pics you will be able to use at your discretion. Fair is fair, I will take you up on the offer. Details to follow. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMike View Post
    If you are serious, I am in. Good to see you will rise to the challenge. I, too, do not own a car, my bike is my transport nowadays. I live in Mexico and ride mixed surfaces and most of my mileage is done alone and off the beaten path.
    I will fit your product and test it for you at elevations from sea level to more than 14,000ft in temps from below zero to over 110f and in torrential rain, high humidity, and sleet conditions.
    If it stands up and does what it says with no problems, I will write you a review with pics you will be able to use at your discretion. Fair is fair, I will take you up on the offer. Details to follow. Thank you.
    Serious as a heart attack!

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    I have been thinking all morning about how to reply to your offer of a free crash alert to evaluate. My first reaction was, “Oh great”, I get a freebe and someone will listen to what I have to say about it…great for the ego…but after more serious consideration I realized that I would have to wire it up, then go someplace to crash and wait for someone to notice…hummmm, don’t like that route. So I believe that I will decline your kind offer. I have to give you koodos for picking your naysayers to test it though, at least that shows me that you are a true believer in it.

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    I wonder in what percent of actual accidents this would actually be needed. I have crashed more times than I want to recall and in all my cases there was always help readily available. Then in the very very rare case of going off a cliff or something where no one noticed would the light and horn actual be noticed before the battery ran down? If you are concerned about your safety I still think that the money could be better spent on other safety equipment.

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    Jim, you've got an email on the way, let's get this testing started.
    Looking forward to it.

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    Just got back from a cool ride 46 degrees, but sunny here today. (drove the Yamaha R1 limited edition), no hot grips on this bike!. So far our research on accidents that happened like this is about 38%, it was more than I thought!. There were 105,000 accidents last year in the US. Interesting thing, in my area (kinda flat in Indiana) there was another accident near me this summer where a Harley rider went off a road in the morning some 100 feet from a home and laid there all day and night, they found the rider dead the next day.

    Its sorta like wearing a helmet, you may never need one, but are glad you had it on when you crash. Wearing my helmet, I was knocked unconscious, later the sheriff told me I was traveling about 45 - 50 MPH when I went over a rural bridge, and crashed (The only thing I can remember is I was going to be extra careful when I turn on this road, because I had not been on it in years "HA!,lotta good that was"), had broken collar bone, scapula, ribs, and bleeding. The lady that found me heard the Crash Alert horn and found me. I am suing the county, because there were several accidents “Cars” that had crashed at that spot weeks before. My riding buddy went to the accident site the next morning to take photos, and they had already paved the crash site!

    Oh!,Crash Alert has an output that can activate a GPS rescue device too.


    Our purpose is to provide some extra insurance and maybe save a riders life in the event of a crash, not to make money! Heck if we could, we would give them all away to just save even one riders life!

    I am totally serious about this!

    Interesting thing,
    I now have broken both left and right collar bones, and fit spot bikes even better now! “joke”

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    I replied to it. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashAlertRider View Post
    ...Hey - MikeMike, Pegasus Jockey, Silver970, danham, email me your shipping address, I have been authorized to send you a Crash Alert kit FREE! (just install it, and evaluate it for us) Reply here, or email me directly : motorcycles@hughes.net
    As Charles said, good on you for making this offer. I am going to decline. The F800 has little room for extra stuff under the tupperware and my fuse panel, GPS connections, heated jacket, battery tender pigtail, radar and Bluetooth stuff take up what there is, so my enthusiasm for adding to the collection is low.

    Also, I'm not worried that your device won't work or doesn't do what you claim it does; I just question whether it is money well spent. The most likely time I would need it is if on a solo ride I go off into the rhubarb (still loving that expression) on a lonely rural road. The odds on another vehicle coming by before the battery dies or of the driver of that vehicle hearing the horn are in my opinion quite low.

    At any rate, thanks for your response and offer.

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    Thanks for your reply Dan,

    I totally understand.

    I also have too many things connected to my bikes. Hot grips, aux lights, heated seat, heated jacket, battery tender leads, radar, music system, espresso maker (HA!), and Crash Alert.

    Just to let you know, the Crash Alert system is small,1.5” X 2.0” X 3/4”, the siren is 1”, water/fire resistant plastic injection molded which provides maximum impact, and circuit protection (we’ve had a system running activated under water for a year so far) .

    It has been designed to operate until the motorcycle battery is depleted, if we had used the motorcycles horn, it would drain the battery in just 2 hours. We have tested this system thoroughly, on motorcycles, and in environmental/vibration chambers, and used (my crashed motorcycle, on its side) which activated Crash Alert, and it ran for 22 hours.

    We thought of that, we are almost done testing a rechargeable (from the motorcycle battery)
    a module that will isolate the motorcycle battery power and still operates Crash Alert activated
    for 60 hours, all without the need to worry about it. Its smart, If anything goes wrong with Crash Alert during normal standby operation, it will let you know.

    Military hardened design to survive your riding conditions.

    Our purpose is to provide some extra insurance and maybe save a riders life in the event of a crash.

    Thank you for your comment.

    Jim

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    Friends don't let friends drink Starbucks! I think this is a great idea, I got mine today.
    I too was a little skeptical art first, but after I examined it WOW! It isn’t your run of the mill alarm system type box, its solid, looks like its easy to install too. going to put it on my bike this weekend in addition to my heated grips, radar, gps, lights and espresso maker!?!

    I thought I would try it, they guarantee the product or my money back.

    I like the comment :- provide some extra insurance and maybe save my life in the event of a crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashAlertRider View Post
    Hey this is Jim,

    I own 7 sport bikes, (don't own a car!) (I like to distance ride on sport bikes), and don't own a BMW yet!, but I am looking for a new bike in a year or so I like the S1000 RR.
    Sorry about the delay, been riding, snow is coming, and I will be ride limited soon.

    We have read your comments. Crash Alert can be directly attached to your battery, the fuse panel hook up is for riders that don't have "the knack" . Just using a $2.00 tilt switch will not work because every curve you enjoy will set it off. Motorcycle horns are intermittent duty, (they overheat and quit working after 4 minutes).
    Crash Alert has a micro controller that constantly evaluates position Information from the crash sensor, and then activates a siren in the event of a valid crash until vehicle battery is depleted, it has an output to activate a GPS location & rescue device. A stock horn would quit after the battery gets below 9 volts, the Crash Alert Siren will sound when the battery is depleted down to 2.5 volts. The device is plastic cast, otherwise you can run over it with a truck and not damage anything. You can't kill it! - you can hook it up backwards and it will not damage anything!. We have 36,451 in the field!,

    Just want to save lives. (I am serous about this)

    Hey - MikeMike, Pegasus Jockey, Silver970, danham, email me your shipping address, I have been authorized to send you a Crash Alert kit FREE! (just install it, and evaluate it for us) Reply here, or email me directly : motorcycles@hughes.net
    Hi there, I run a HID headlight, if I mistakenly leave my key on when leaving the bike, it will drain the battery in approx half and hour, if I crash my bike down a bank, its going to be the same sort of senario, unfortunately I don't think this sort of device is going to help with any of us that have installed a aftermarket HID light. Have you considered this with this device?
    "An apple a day keeps the doctor away, but if the doctor is cute; screw the fruit" 

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    We thought of that. I too have auxiliary lights. we are almost done testing a small rechargeable (from the motorcycle battery) a permeant battery module that will isolate the motorcycle battery power and still operates Crash Alert activated for 60-80 hours, all without the need to worry about it.
    We could have included the rechargeable module now, but extensive testing is important. Finding and testing the right one that can handle OUR riding conditions is one of my projects, and the goal here is for it to fit well (size matters) and work for years, so we have been testing several rechargeables under extensive conditions.

    Its smart, If anything goes wrong with Crash Alert during normal standby operation, it will let you know.

    Military hardened design to survive your riding conditions.

    Our purpose is to provide some extra insurance and maybe save a riders life in the event of a crash.

    Thank you for your comment.

    Its time to go riding, my buddy just got here with his Honda RC51.

    Jim

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    I am not very good with wires and the like, but the installation was easy. I liked the fuse clip connectors as I did not need to cut any wires. There installation instructions were detailed very well. I was unsure of the stick on pads to install the system, but it turned out to be the best way of mounting it. I checked the installation a couple of days leter, and everything was in place and the adhesive had done its job, I pulled on the control and it did not come off! The sensor and control were smaller than I thought which made it easier to find mounting locations. I likes the whole thing.

    Last weekend Jim contacted me, he lives only 20 miles away, and he came over on a 1999 Suzuki Haybusa, we went for a short ride. He is an interesting rider, he had a set of handle paws over his handlebars with hot grips. I put my hand on the throttle and it was cozy warm (good idea) as it was cold that day.

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    Formally known as hippo hands? A device that coddles to the falanges on the cold days?
    Some are really ugly and others are quite nicely made. Warm hands are a good thing.
    Hope you also happy about using his product. Took quite a flaming right off.
    When I first rear the tag line, I thought, "why do I need to be alerted to a crash, I'm there!"
    Although, once I wasn't aware of my incompetence until I came to in the emergency room.

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    The kits arrived safe and sound. I delivered one to a friend of mine who is a factory certified independent mechanic and bike shop owner who doesn't speak English. He found the instructions were clear enough with the diagrams. I am leaning on him to install it on a KTM he has at the shop, stay tuned. I am waiting on two other riders to pick up their kits for testing. My testing will begin once the Christmas rush settles down. First impressions count, the kit is solid, tough, and construction is not a worry. The instructions and DVD are helpful. As far as value for money, it is good as the components appear well constructed. I will bet that factory support on this will be good. Jim is easy to deal with. I am contemplating attachment points and routing and the little fuse leads have given me an idea.
    I will provide more feedback from the field as quick as I can. From myself and other riders. Thanks again Jim for providing the test units and thumbs up for standing behind your product and, importantly, asking for feedback.

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    Thanks for the comments. Have a safe Christmas, you are lucky you can ride in the warm weather.
    Me!, today its time to replace my sprockets and chain on the 2001 929 AGAIN!

    Its nice to have extra rides, you can work on one, and ride the other!

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    Distance Rider! You are a nut! Thank you for your comment.

    Our purpose is to provide some extra insurance and maybe save a riders life in the event of a crash.

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    hi CrashAlertRider. i wonder why you did not ship to europe. i've never had it, but i terribly miss it.....
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    We will ship outside the United states. Just place your order on the web site, and post a message on the contact page with your name and alternate phone number and e-mail address.
    You can also contact us direct e-mail @ Motorcycles@hughes.net

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    Christmas is over, time to start working on my bikes to get them ready for riding season.



    Hey, does anybody do a new years day ride? Its cold here 22 degrees today.
    Some time ago I rode new years day -15 degrees "COLD" - had to cover the radiator completely to keep my baby warm!

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    Some time ago I rode new years day -15 degrees COLD - had to cover the radiator completely to keep my baby warm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashAlertRider View Post
    We will ship outside the United states. Just place your order on the web site, and post a message on the contact page with your name and alternate phone number and e-mail address.
    i've already asked same question 2-3 weeks ago. no reply...
    ok. i tried again, just now.
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    Weather is good, temps are good - I'm goin riding!

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    Bikes are a funny thing, - you never know what’s around the corner.

    Crash Alert could save your life.

    Its smart, If anything goes wrong with Crash Alert during normal standby operation, it will let you know.

    Military hardened design to survive your riding conditions.

    Our purpose is to provide some extra insurance and maybe save a riders life in the event of a crash.

    We guarantee our products, or your money back.

    5 year warranty.

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    Last weeks ride was COLD!!! But no snow on the road.


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    Ever loose your generator while riding some distance away?
    Well yes it would happen to me!, and only 220 miles away from home. With all the accessories installed on my bikes, heated grips, aux lights, heated seat, radar, espresso maker “ha!” My dashboard first goes blank, and all of a sudden my bike dies in the middle of nowhere! What do you do? In the old days of carbs you could roll start your bike. Today with fuel injection & other electronics you need the charging system to ride. What do you do when this happens?

    This happened to me last summer, my idea was to buy a car battery and replacement battery cables, install them across the bike battery and drive it home. Its easy and it only took 1 hour. I returned the battery and cables after I got back safely.


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    Any popular rides you like?

    Photo: Madison Indiana - lots of curves here!


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