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    Anyone lost their key and know the replacement price for a new one?

    Never lost a bike or car key before, and now after only having the ST for 4 weeks, I cannot find the key I have the plastic emergency wallet key with the key code on it, so I just assume I quote that code when ordering a new key.

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    No idea but I believe the new key has to be "introduced" to the OBC which is a dealer job.
    I lay money on the fact that as soon as you've ordered the new key and had it programmed and spent the cost of a good weekend away the old key will turn up.

    If you suspect the old key may have been lost where somebody else could find it and use it then get the dealer to remove that key from the bike memory.
    If however you suspect it may turn up then don't. You'll then have two usable keys.
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    Take the equivalent of about $80US with you when you go to order a replacement key.

    Expensive little buggers.

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    i heard they are over $100 plus US, good luck - or see the thread on "keyless entry"
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    Have you checked the seat lock? I "lost" my key for a day before finding it in the seat lock, ready to be stolen by anyone who would have seen it... Felt stupid but this won't happen twice...

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    My dealer just ordered me an extra when I bought the bike and gave it FOC at the first service.

    They surely can't be that expensive if he just gave me it, after all I got charged for foot-peg rubbers after just 3 months riding.

    I also lost my key for a day, found it in the ignition parked on the street presumably since I washed it the previous evening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holyroller View Post
    They surely can't be that expensive if he just gave me it, after all I got charged for foot-peg rubbers after just 3 months riding.
    My footpegs are worn out after 1 years riding but I've spoken to my dealer and they will replace at next service FOC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat H View Post
    My footpegs are worn out after 1 years riding but I've spoken to my delaer and they will replace at next service FOC.
    Yeah, that's pretty much what I mean.

    I understand from earlier threads that footpegs are a campaign item in some countries - my replacements are a different part number, different compound and different fitment so clearly redesigned but chargeable, your dealer says no problem. However I got a second key for free without having to work for it but others on the forum are quoting 80 - 100 $/£.

    So much for German efficiency. (Apologies now to any German members).

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    Any chance you can get the part number of the replacement foot peg rubbers.
    Seems daft to fit the same soft ones under warranty that will be worn out inaother 12 months.
    My dealers spares screen doesn't show a new rubebr but maybe with the right part number they can track one down!
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    Pat H,

    It was the same with my dealer, there is only one type and its the new one. Even the shape is SLIGHTLY different, the new one is solid where the old one has some kind of cavity. I did have the part number for the purpose of kicking up a stink - but decided I will keep my stink in my back pocket for now so discarded the number.

    IMHO order with confidence from new stock, they only list one and if it's ordered in (rather than dealer stock) they all come from the same depot (mine was done 3 months ago) so it's sure to be right.

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    Ok thanks I'll do just that.
    If worse case the new one is same as old I can moan later.
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    FYI, '08's come with two 'real' keys.

    I think if you moan enough, they might give you a free second one for your '07.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff jones View Post
    FYI, '08's come with two 'real' keys.

    I think if you moan enough, they might give you a free second one for your '07.
    I think it depends on country of purchase

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    A new key has to be ordered from Germany in order to match the code for the ignition immobilizer. BMW has the code on file based on the bike's VIN. In Canada the key cost almost $100 last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff jones View Post
    FYI, '08's come with two 'real' keys.

    I think if you moan enough, they might give you a free second one for your '07.
    what!

    I dislike having just the one key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouth View Post
    Anyone lost their key and know the replacement price for a new one?

    Never lost a bike or car key before, and now after only having the ST for 4 weeks, I cannot find the key I have the plastic emergency wallet key with the key code on it, so I just assume I quote that code when ordering a new key.
    What's up with your bike Mouth first you hotwired it now you lost your key?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikebits View Post
    A new key has to be ordered from Germany in order to match the code for the ignition immobilizer. BMW has the code on file based on the bike's VIN. In Canada the key cost almost $100 last year.
    Indeed. Dealer wanted my VIN, code attached to the emergency key, proof of ownership, photocopy of my license, and $162 AUD (+10% GST/Tax for a total of $180 AUD). 2 weeks wait for delivery, as mentioned above it has to come from Germany. Dealer and key don't have to get together, as the new key will already match the bike when it comes from Germany. Apparently, dealers have no method or knowledge of how to do a new key, and only Germany can and will provide replacement keys.

    $162 AUD = $142 US = $142 CAD = $72 GBP = $96 EUR

    Don't lose you key people! Interestingly, my BMW dealer also told me that if you own a Yamaha and lose the keys, the only option is a $3,000 US complete key and immobiliser replacement as Yamaha (and he believes also a few other bike manufacturers) have no ability to issue replacement keys once it leaves the factory floor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat H View Post
    No idea but I believe the new key has to be "introduced" to the OBC which is a dealer job.
    I lay money on the fact that as soon as you've ordered the new key and had it programmed and spent the cost of a good weekend away the old key will turn up.
    Indeed! Frustratingly, I'm 99.9% sure that the key has fallen from either my pocket or off the keyhook somewhere in the house, and my 20 month old daughter has found it sitting on the ground (or couch/sofa) and played with it, leaving it in some place that I'll never find it until 6 months from now when it will just materialise. Grrrrrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batamali View Post
    What's up with your bike Mouth first you hotwired it now you lost your key?
    The hotwire (see relevant topic, now not really a hotwire!) was quite by accident when looking for an appropriate ignition wire to install my bike alarm onto and was several days before losing the key! But yes, I am wondering if I have been jinxed recently

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    My dealer tells me a replacement key should be £25.00 + 17.5 % v.a.t.
    Foot peg rubbers are £9.62 + 17.5 % v.a.t. Part number is 4671 7671 079.
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    I paid $150.00 from Southbank BMW. Key has to come from Germany and takes two weeks

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    Aside from the cost, one has to jump thru alot of hoops before ordering. My extra key cost about $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainman View Post
    My dealer tells me a replacement key should be £25.00 + 17.5 % v.a.t.
    Foot peg rubbers are £9.62 + 17.5 % v.a.t. Part number is 4671 7671 079.
    Dealer today offered me one FOC under "warranty", though he only gave me one real key and an emergency plastic key. I just nodded and said, "Yes, please".

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    Have you ever heard of the " Power of the Subconcious Mind "

    You have one good thing going for you. You believe it is in your house.

    Try to retrace your movements the day you had it last. You may have put it somewhere sub conciously.

    Now tell yourshelf, you are going to find it and in a relaxed and happy state, tear your house apart and don't forget to look between your couch pillows.

    You will find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn Wainrib View Post
    I paid $150.00 from Southbank BMW. Key has to come from Germany and takes two weeks
    When was this Glenn? Same dealer and it's now $180 (inc GST).

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    My bike arrived with 2 real keys supplied without any request from me.

    Obviously a "good dealership is the key to good service", if you will forgive the pun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouth View Post
    2 weeks wait for delivery, as mentioned above it has to come from Germany.
    Received my key this afternoon, so very happy with the service time. Visited my dealer on Monday lunchtime, and called on Fri afternoon to say it had arrived. Effectively 4 days .. not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederic Chamberland View Post
    Have you checked the seat lock? I "lost" my key for a day before finding it in the seat lock, ready to be stolen by anyone who would have seen it... Felt stupid but this won't happen twice...
    This just happened to me. Lucky I came across your post. I don't know how long I would have gone without checking the seat. Thanks Much.

    Best wishes

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    I'm another SeatLockSerialOffender. Dunnit several times on both my bikes, got the memory lapse recovery time down to about 3 hours, but doubt I will ever completely kick the habit.
    Very embarrassing when you are far from home and not carrying a spare!

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    You will need proof of ownership To get a key. If I remember correctly, the VIN will get the correct key. They should have that info on record. I bought a back-up years ago for $50 US. I have done the seat lock bit myself.

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    Lost my key, ordered new one, found key a few days later, on the drive belt of all places, now I have two keys and one plastic one. No electronic tying up code, vin number wanted so correct key could be ordered.

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    PS this is a very old thread, started way back in 08, before I purchased my bike in November that year
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    I got a replacement key last year from the dealer.
    It was around $90-100 dollars(before tax). It took 2 week to arrive.
    You will need to provide them with your vin#.

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    When I lost my key, I used the plastic spare key that came with the bike. Now, there is no electronics in the plastic key, I asked about it and was told for definite no electronics in the plastic. So, I assume the Vin number is required so the correct cut of key for the bike is sold.

    Or am I a daft old Flook
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    Plastic key has a chip, same as the metal ones.

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    Not according to my dealer, and I am tempted to attack it to find out for sure, but I do not like destroying things unnecessarily though, just to prove or disprove a point. So we agree to disagree on this one, for now
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    Sorry Dave, but I suggest that you go back and educate your dealer.
    There is an RF Transponder in the Key. Have a look here for info, and a trick to start your bike with a faulty ring antenna.

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    I have just been to the location, hey I stand corrected and I thank you for that. I shall of course print it out

    It only goes to show that a 67 year old git like me can still learn a thing or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikebits View Post
    A new key has to be ordered from Germany in order to match the code for the ignition immobilizer. BMW has the code on file based on the bike's VIN. In Canada the key cost almost $100 last year.
    I ordered on in Canada last year, think it cost me $110 (tax?). The key came programmed by BMW Germany and my dealer did not have to do anything.

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    I ordered a replacement key after taking in my registration document and it was £40
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    [QUOTE=Flook;1455905]I have just been to the location, hey I stand corrected and I thank you for that. I shall of course print it out

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    You a git? I'm an old git as well, but a 68 year old, maybe we're all gits at heart.

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    Actually Terry I am a MOG, but, what does one or any one or any two ( am going by numbers now AAhhh) call two ST owners, who are 67 & 68 respectively? being respectful of course

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    Cars have individual codes that tell the Locksmith how to make a new key for them. They tend to be included in the handbook. They'll still have that code on record at head office or whatever but that could take some time to get hold of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackjackson View Post
    Cars have individual codes that tell the Locksmith how to make a new key for them. They tend to be included in the handbook. They'll still have that code on record at head office or whatever but that could take some time to get hold of.
    I notice this is your first post so welcome jackjackson to our forum, why don't you introduce yourself in the relevant section and tell us which bike you ride - we don't bite!
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    Welcome jack Jackson to the 800 site. Oxy is correct in saying about posting an introduction, go to the main forum section, there you will find the introduce yourself to the f800 etc.

    We we don't bite, unless you slag someone off then we get heavey, but that has not happened for many years now, thank goodness.

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    Just ordered a spare for my 07 800s from BMW of Detroit for $87. I took the title in as proof of ownership.

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    Thanks to Wayne's post I came back here to re-read, wow, this is an old revived post. I still have two main key's and a plastic one somewhere.
    so, nothing much to add. However, if someone/anyone has had to replace their key/s, I reckon this is the place to post on the subject.

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    Wayne, I'm going to Dallas at the end of the month and was going by the BMW shop for another key. Won't be taking the bike so do they need any other numbers off the bike or just the vin number and title?

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    Your best bet may be to simply call the dealer and ask.


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    Hi guys!

    I know it's an old thread, but I do have a related question:

    - If you buy an F800ST with ony one key, is there a way to "invalidate" the missing key?

    I don't have any reasons to trust/misstrust the previous owner, but nevertheless, I don't want to know that out there there is a key that work with my bike.

    Thanks!

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    yes. The keys have unique identifiers that the ECU checks for. They get stored in the ECU by the dealer. They can be deleted. Just take all the keys you want to keep to the dealer and you'll get the bike back with only those being able to start it.

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