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    William Plam | Wunderlich America <[email protected]>
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    Hello,

    Some time ago, you contacted us regarding engine protection bars for your
    F800 GT. I am pleased to inform you that we now offer them and have them in
    stock. Here is a direct link:

    http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mot.../31671002.html


    Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

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    I checked them out and think they don't look too bad, but I can't persuade myself that I really need them.
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    William Plam | Wunderlich America <[email protected]>
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    Hello,

    Some time ago, you contacted us regarding engine protection bars for your
    F800 GT. I am pleased to inform you that we now offer them and have them in
    stock. Here is a direct link:
    Touratech also do crash bars for the GT.

    http://shop.touratech.co.uk/crashbar...ess-steel.html

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    Ah, but which are best? Normally I would expect Touratech's to be stronger, but with only one cross brace and that with a jubilee clip type fixing I am not sure. On the other hand the Touratech does protect lower and have mounting points down low near the braek and gear levers.

    Any ideas which would offer the best protection for a low speed car-park type drop?
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    Make your GT look like a GS. Very macho but you will need Rox Risers to reach the grips standing on the pegs in true GS style.
    I don't think they would have helped when I hit a deer and caved in the headlight and fairing.
    I reckon they 'd look good on the bike though.
    Similar crash bars held up well on my DL560 when I crashed in Utah. Well worth the money spent. Yah gotta pick how you are going to crash in the future.

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    I'm thinking I might be able to mount some highway pegs on those, along with some auxiliary lights.

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    I doubt that either the Wunderlich or Touratech bars will save you if you're sliding down the road @ 50+MPH; however I do think these will be useful in a parking lot tip-over. DAMHIK....
    And as Zapkat notes they would provide a place to mount a set of driving lights.

    Assuming I have $300 extra lying around I might just get a set of these.
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    If you install these crash bars, a Kontour seat and the Madstad screen, you would be ready to enter the ugly motorcycle contest.

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    Hmmm.... don't get me wrong, as I am a GS rider and have upper and lower crash bars on my bike. But, I'm just not a fan of crashbars on a road bike. As mentioned earlier, they should help in a parking lot tip over, but the look is..., uh... somewhat frumpy on the stylish GT. As mentioned, they do provide mounting points for driving lights. I'm trying to imagine highway pegs on the bike though and have trouble picturing the reach to the bar, the seat. It seems that highway pegs would put the rider in a forward lean with your feet high and in front of you. Would that be comfortable? With that being said, to each their own. Will look to see your final product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana1 View Post
    If you install these crash bars, a Kontour seat and the Madstad screen, you would be ready to enter the ugly motorcycle contest.
    I tend to agree, but the Touratech stainless bars are less offensive. Whether they offer as much protection is another question. Crash bars are not really a safety accessory, so it's a question of how much ugliness you are willing to tolerate on a day-to-day basis in order to get a little protection for the plastic in case of a fall-down.
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    I think that probably the frame sliders give enough protection, obviously less than the crash bars, but the sliders look much better. on the other side, the crash bars let you mount easily some accessories like fog lights and highway pegs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TelemarkTumalo View Post
    I'm trying to imagine highway pegs on the bike though and have trouble picturing the reach to the bar, the seat. It seems that highway pegs would put the rider in a forward lean with your feet high and in front of you. Would that be comfortable? With that being said, to each their own. Will look to see your final product.
    Admittedly, I'm only going by the pictures posted on Wunderlich's website. I have no idea how snug the fit is, or exactly where the bars would be relative to my seating position. It just occurred to me from looking at the pictures that it might be possible. I think I'd want to at least see them mounted on a bike, in person, before I shelled out that kind of money only to find out it won't work. I'm not really interested in them from a 'crash protection' point of view.

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    "Whether they offer as much protection is another question"

    As mentioned above, the crash bars saved my DL650 from more severe damage when I had an off road excursion a few years ago. Don't discount what they can protect when the bike is sliding on it's side.
    What you may imagine and what really happens can be two different things.
    Frame sliders on a R1000RR led to the frame being replaced of a friends bike. Your results may vary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana1 View Post
    If you install these crash bars, a Kontour seat and the Madstad screen, you would be ready to enter the ugly motorcycle contest.
    Well, I already have the Madstad screen so I guess I'm officially on my way to ugly bike status...
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    Well, I already have the Madstad screen so I guess I'm officially on my way to ugly bike status...
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    Quote Originally Posted by notacop View Post
    "Whether they offer as much protection is another question"

    As mentioned above, the crash bars saved my DL650 from more severe damage when I had an off road excursion a few years ago. Don't discount what they can protect when the bike is sliding on it's side.
    What you may imagine and what really happens can be two different things.
    Frame sliders on a R1000RR led to the frame being replaced of a friends bike. Your results may vary!
    No argument that crash bars provide protection; my question had to do with whether the (relatively inoffensive) Tourtech bars are likely to be as effective as the (uglier) Wunderlichs.
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    "Tourtech bars are likely to be as effective as the (uglier) Wunderlichs. "

    Spliting hairs, of course. Yep, design makes a dofference.
    BMW has a long history of aftermarket crash bars. The old twins, /2's, /6's, /7's had big wide loops to protect the cylinders from fall downs. Might have been Luftmiester that made them.

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    I like the look of the stainless bars. I will decide after riding the RS that, I will put order in for the Touratech crash bar or not. I better start saving up now, got wife's blessing for new bike or buy few things for the GT.

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    We've ordered a set of the Wunderlichs for my GT (and for Dave's new RT). They should be here next week. Will let you know what we think.

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    What is the idea in photo 2 on the Touratech link on the exhaust headers?

    http://shop.touratech.co.uk/crashbar...ess-steel.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapkat View Post
    We've ordered a set of the Wunderlichs for my GT (and for Dave's new RT). They should be here next week. Will let you know what we think.
    Once you have them installed, not only what you think of them but how about photos? I'd rather see real-life photos than the marketing photos.
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    Sure, we can do that. Looks like they're waiting for pickup at the post office, so we'll have them tonight after work. (Not sure when they'll be installed, but hopefully fairly quickly!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapkat View Post
    Sure, we can do that. Looks like they're waiting for pickup at the post office, so we'll have them tonight after work. (Not sure when they'll be installed, but hopefully fairly quickly!)
    Also looking forward to seeing your review!

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    Any update?

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    Sorry for the delay, guys. Life gets in the way sometimes and we've been busy. My husband has been working on adding the farkles I'd collected over the winter - Skene aux brake lights, ADVMonster driving lights, wiring up the XM radio from his old RT, the engine guards, and a couple of other things. He ran into a couple of issues with the engine guards that further delayed things. As someone else said, some of the threaded holes were blocked up with powdercoat (overspray?), one of them so badly he had to tap it out to get the bolt through. He also misread the torque settings and over-torqued one of the bolts, stripping it partially in the process. Had to mail order some Helicoils to re-thread the bolt. Now that those things are fixed, he's hoping to get it buttoned up tonight. We'll be test fitting the highway pegs to the bars as well, to see if that's practical. Will keep you posted, hopefully in the next few days.

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    Can't see myself really needing crashbars for my GT for crashbar purposes, but it would make mounting fog lights and highway pegs for longer tours a lot more convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassav View Post
    Can't see myself really needing crashbars for my GT for crashbar purposes, but it would make mounting fog lights and highway pegs for longer tours a lot more convenient.
    I am hoping mainly that the pegs experiment goes well. But, I do know that repainting fairings is expensive and time-consuming. Especially if you have custom paint (I don't, but others do). hmm...I do know a good custom painter. Now I am thinking I should after this summer

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    Zapcat - I’m considering adding the Wunderlich engine bars to a used GT in great condition which I’m about to purchase...I am interested in a review by an owner of such bars. I am interested in the bars for double duty - to protect the fairing and engine, and also to provide some extra leg saving clearance in the event I go down. I saw your 2015 post up to your discussion of having ordered them. Is any feedback available? Thank you.

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    I have them but unable to comment on how well they work in the event of a get off. I fitted them mainly to protect the fairing in case of dropping the bike at standstill and somewhere to mount Daylight Running Lights and Fog Lamps. One piece of advice I would give when fitting. The lower mounts for the bars are two holes in the front of the engine block. Wunderlich supply two bolts slightly longer than the stock one (only one is used as fairing mount bracket on the GT the other is left unused). These bolts are awkward to fit because they are obstructed by the bikes downpipes. I replaced the supplied bolts with studs and nuts. This makes fitting and removing the crashbars much easier you can locate the crash bar on the studs loosely then fit the upper bolts then put a nut on the stud and tighten up. Trust me on this is save a lot of effort especially if doing it single handed. I also needed to run a tap down the threaded holes in the engine block to clean them up.

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    Sorry for not posting these up - I'm tech challenged, lol.

    Here are a few pictures of the Wunderlich engine guards installed on my '13 GT.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapkat View Post
    Sorry for not posting these up - I'm tech challenged, lol.

    Here are a few pictures of the Wunderlich engine guards installed on my '13 GT.


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    Could you fit highway pegs at the end? I cannot see them on pics.

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    As much as I wanted to, no. The geometry just isn't right, for me anyway.

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    I did consider these rather than the Wundelich crash bungs.
    The bars just don't look right to me. Mind you the bung plates would look better in black - so that'll happen over the winter.

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    ZapKat- MOST excellent! Thank you for posting the photos. That is exactly what I needed to see. Do find that there is any interference with the movement of your foot, to/from the ground to the shifter or brake? No toe, or side of the foot banging against the bars?

    Beautiful bike by the way. I wanted the dark orange option but the used deal I bought over the weekend is all dark grey. Still, I LOVE the way it handles! Went out Sunday for a ride In the countryside...sorry to have to come back to earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapkat View Post
    Sorry for not posting these up - I'm tech challenged, lol.

    Here are a few pictures of the Wunderlich engine guards installed on my '13 GT.



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    No interference; the bars fit fairly close to the bodywork. There's plenty of room between peg/brake and crashbar, as well as a height difference. I barely notice them from the seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGD109 View Post
    I have them but unable to comment on how well they work in the event of a get off. I fitted them mainly to protect the fairing in case of dropping the bike at standstill and somewhere to mount Daylight Running Lights and Fog Lamps. One piece of advice I would give when fitting. The lower mounts for the bars are two holes in the front of the engine block. Wunderlich supply two bolts slightly longer than the stock one (only one is used as fairing mount bracket on the GT the other is left unused). These bolts are awkward to fit because they are obstructed by the bikes downpipes. I replaced the supplied bolts with studs and nuts. This makes fitting and removing the crashbars much easier you can locate the crash bar on the studs loosely then fit the upper bolts then put a nut on the stud and tighten up. Trust me on this is save a lot of effort especially if doing it single handed. I also needed to run a tap down the threaded holes in the engine block to clean them up.
    I didn't think of doing that! First I found the two halves did not fit snugly until I had filed the ridge in the interior of the tube. Then while I figured out most of the rest of the instructions, the fixing behind the exhaust pipes was packed with mud but didn't have a tap. Nor could I get an Allan key in the space, even when I bought one with a ball end. Anyway I struggled unsuccessfully for several hours and then I thought if I saw another 80 year old lying on a garage floor struggling to fit these bars I would be the first to set "Stupid old b*gger" so staggered to my feet and took it to my local bike shop to fit. I had a stiff neck for several days afterwards. However very happy with the end result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Ken View Post
    I didn't think of doing that! First I found the two halves did not fit snugly until I had filed the ridge in the interior of the tube. Then while I figured out most of the rest of the instructions, the fixing behind the exhaust pipes was packed with mud but didn't have a tap. Nor could I get an Allan key in the space, even when I bought one with a ball end. Anyway I struggled unsuccessfully for several hours and then I thought if I saw another 80 year old lying on a garage floor struggling to fit these bars I would be the first to set "Stupid old b*gger" so staggered to my feet and took it to my local bike shop to fit. I had a stiff neck for several days afterwards. However very happy with the end result.
    Feel for you Ken. The fit between the two halves was tight on mine as well I chamfered the end of the internal side and added copious amounts of copper ease to help. I did initially fit using the supplied bolts but I figured the bars would need to come off for maintenance (you can't get the fairing off with the bars in place) I had real concerns about cross threading the bolts into the block and then all the hassle that would cause which is why I choose to replace with the stud and nut option. As you point out getting the Allen bolts tight even with a ball ended Allen key in not easy. With a stud and bolt you can get full leverage with nothing more than a ring or combination spanner.

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    I’m interested in fitting the Wunderlich crash bars to my gt but was wondering if I would have to drill holes in the fairing or modify it in some way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianfromTassie View Post
    I’m interested in fitting the Wunderlich crash bars to my gt but was wondering if I would have to drill holes in the fairing or modify it in some way?
    You do need to drill holes in the black inner fairing. If you were to remove the bars the holes would be hidden by outer fairing.

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    Thanks, AdrianfromTassie. I’m going to let the dealer do the job. But those who do the work themselves need to know about that.

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    Did wonder about getting a set of these a few weeks ago but prevaricated.

    Might have saved my leg from injury. At least my leg saved the bike from damage.

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    FYI - might be of interest to others...I had the Wunderlich bars installed on my bike. But I keep hitting my right leg on the bar, likely because I have utilized the Touring options of lower seat height, handlebar risers and lowered footpegs, which places my ass in a different, more forward and more directly under my torso position than the Sport configuration. My solution is to put some pipe insulation at the impact point, and eventually train myself to place my leg a little farther to the outside of the bar so that I am not making contact.

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    Also of note, I bought my bars online from a European supplier, and even with the $35 shipping and currency conversion saved about $100 more than if I had purchased them in the US. I only had to wait a bit longer to have them in my hot hands...which, lets face it, in motorcycle time can seem like a lifetime....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapkat View Post
    As much as I wanted to, no. The geometry just isn't right, for me anyway.

    Hi Zapkat,

    Which pegs did you try and didn’t work for you? I found this post where Ilium Works pegs were used with Wunderlich crash bars on F800ST and it seems to work. F800ST bars are a bit different so I would like to see if anyone tried this on GT.

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