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    Braver than I am!!

    I'm sorry but it's ATGATT for me, no fleshy bits on display for the road to wear away if I come off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST404 View Post
    Braver than I am!!

    I'm sorry but it's ATGATT for me, no fleshy Boston display for the road to wear away if I come off.
    Yes, in Hawaii helmets are not required and you are not allowed to filter. Both not very well thought out laws.
    I knew I was going to rent a bike, so I bought my armored Kevlar jeans, gloves, but I did not bring my helmet or my motorcycle jacket. The motorcycle rental place gave me a helmet to wear, and I did not have room in my luggage as I only packed a carry on.
    So I rode in my T shirt. Normally back home I wear an armored jacket too. I didn't have space as I am here for 7 days.
    But your point is well taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST404 View Post
    Braver than I am!!

    I'm sorry but it's ATGATT for me, no fleshy Boston display for the road to wear away if I come off.
    This is the reason why you ride a BMW instead of a Harley.
    "putenza du gibbiuni!" dissi u sceccu quannu vitti u mari... ("what a big pool!" said the donkey when has seen the sea...) 

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    Norm, I've been to a few of the islands and the last vehicle I'd want for riding the Isles is a Harley.
    A 250 of any shape is more than would be needed to have fun on the back roads and be more maneuverable than the Milwaukee shaker.
    Hope you had fun though.
    Were you spending time at an Ohana house? Or were you doing a haole tour?

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    Ohana. Grandson is 2 years old. My first grandchild.
    I did enjoy the ride though. Harley Dyna Lowrider is a beast! Vibrates like you wouldn't believe. Noisy and I rarely got up to 3rd gear. Plenty of low down torque and so much chrome, I wouldn't want to own it. Got rained on, but who cares....It is the islands..
    All the rental bikes had custom pipes so I felt like I was disturbing the serenity of the islands.
    It is the only way to see the the outer part of the island. Traffic wasn't bad till later in the day, and when returning to Waikiki.
    No lane splitting, so that was a PITA.

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    The Hawaiians do like the Harleys and a huge group of them tour the islands every year. The have to off load to a smaller boat outside the Lahaina port and ship them in a few at a time.
    Probably the most fun vehicle we toured Maui with was Geo Tracker soft top jeep. Long time ago.
    Hang loose, Bro!
    We just had our 1st GGC. A lad named Jack.

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    Congrats! You are waaaay ahead of me.

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    Yeah, Kids now wait until they have a career and stuff like that before starting famblies.
    They may or may not ever have G Kids before they pass on. Like David Letterman siring a child when he should be enjoying the grandkids going home after a visit.
    Yo, geezer, wanna play ball. I'll get the wheel chair.....

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    I know what you mean. We were walking around Ala Moana and I asked be taken back because my sciatic nerve was acting up.
    These are the golden years after all.

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    Sorry your sciatica is acting up. I've seen my older friends deal with it. Sure slows down the fun factor!

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    How did the Harley compare to your BMW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kb-f700gs View Post
    How did the Harley compare to your BMW?
    The Harley was a beast! It vibrates and rumbles when it idles. Once underway it settles down. It seems happiest in 2nd and third gears. I rarely got it above 3rd or fourth. You are always aware of that deep Harley rumble, however. It is after all designed to cruise. Slow speed maneuvers are surprisingly easy. I suspect because of it's a low rider. The lock to lock degree is much greater than the BMW. It is a wider longer bike also. I could flat foot it, because it was the Dyna Lowrider. For me, it is harder to u turn my F than it was the Harley.
    It only has about 2 inches of suspension travel so it is not as compliant on undulating or rough surfaces.
    No fairing or windshield so there was very little wind protection. I wore a skid lid so riding at higher speeds was uncomfortable due to the wind noise and tearing of the eyes and interfering of vision.
    No ABS so on one occasion I skidded a bit in the rain when I wasn't paying attention.
    It has tons of torque in every gear. It can be disconcerting if you inadvertently twist the throttle.
    I wasn't brave enough to try any real twisties since it was a rental, but within limits it might be fun. It is not designed for it though.
    I had several Honda cruisers of various engine sizes. They were not as responsive in acceleration as the Harley. Brakes were adequate, but nothing like my F800. It has great brakes as you know.
    In a panic stop on the Harley, I would be toast.
    Also, every piece was metal and chrome. My Honda had plastic everything. Same with the F. I would not enjoy washing and polishing the Harley every weekend.

    Saddle was very comfortable and had a lot of cushion.
    Gas consumption is terrible. It's tank I believe is 4.7 gallons and gets about 18mpg. My Toyota Sienna gets 19 mpg.
    Overall I enjoyed the ride. It was totally different, which is why I chose to ride it. It's perfect for cruising at slow speeds and enjoy the scenery. I was surprised how easy the clutch action was. It was similar to the F. I got stuck in traffic and you can't lane split here in Hawaii.
    My F800 likes to go fast and likes the twisties. It's suspension is compliant, but I also added Racetech springs and gold valve.
    Harley riders like to ride in pairs or at least in groups. I on the other hand am pretty much a loner. My ST is rare and becoming rarer also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST404 View Post
    Braver than I am!!

    I'm sorry but it's ATGATT for me, no fleshy bits on display for the road to wear away if I come off.
    I'm currently on holiday in San Francisco I can't believe how many sports bike riders are out on the freeway in jeans a hoody and trainers. No one seems to wear any gear in the city. Completely different attitude here in the UK.

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    "trainers"
    Colloquially speaking what to that mean?

    Yeah, we have lots of riders young and old who don't respect the unfortunate outcome of a mishap. Or they lack the funds to buy proper gear after getting the bike.
    Then there are those who ride the lifestyle and wouldn't be caught dead prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Fandango View Post
    I'm currently on holiday in San Francisco I can't believe how many sports bike riders are out on the freeway in jeans a hoody and trainers. No one seems to wear any gear in the city. Completely different attitude here in the UK.
    Most of bikers here in Sicily don't wear any gear, just a ridiculous open face helmet, often without homologation.
    "putenza du gibbiuni!" dissi u sceccu quannu vitti u mari... ("what a big pool!" said the donkey when has seen the sea...) 

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    "without homologation."
    golly, I had a Troy Lee fin on one of my helmets. I didn't realize I needed a homologation. Does it prevent helmet hair?

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    Does it prevent helmet hair?
    actually not very well.
    that kind of helmets have not the ECE homologation because were made only for the use on a 50 cc when the helmet became mandatory in italy, they are very cheap hats, but then, because those helmets don't protect anything, are absolutely useless, they were banned, but here is still the most used helmet, even if it's difficult now to find a dealer who still has some of these helmets
    "putenza du gibbiuni!" dissi u sceccu quannu vitti u mari... ("what a big pool!" said the donkey when has seen the sea...) 

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    I didn't realize I needed a homologation.
    and when did you realise that you helmets have all the writing "DOT", or some other writing, always present on your helmets?
    "putenza du gibbiuni!" dissi u sceccu quannu vitti u mari... ("what a big pool!" said the donkey when has seen the sea...) 

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    Dot stickers are available all over the place.
    You think all the HD riders in Beanies are DOT legal?
    Those that care wear a proper skid lid and the rest pretend.
    Still doesn't help with helmet hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Fandango View Post
    I'm currently on holiday in San Francisco I can't believe how many sports bike riders are out on the freeway in jeans a hoody and trainers. No one seems to wear any gear in the city. Completely different attitude here in the UK.
    Carlos, I hope I haven't missed you. Are you coming down to Southern California? If so, let me know. I would love to meet up. I could get Nota to have a drink or two too.
    Norman

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    Just sent you a PM

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    No he is already back home. Who wouldn't want the Schwarzwald Troll to drink with.

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    ME! Woulda been fun though. I met Trevor from down under at the dry lake at CalNeva when he and his son were participating in wind sailing competition.
    I could probably use up both hands worth of fingers counting the members I've personally met.
    Phil and you and what's his name and Trevor and Mark and ......The mind reels!
    Fine fellahs all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkaj View Post
    No he is already back home. Who wouldn't want the Schwarzwald Troll to drink with.
    Sorry about that, it would have been good to have met up. As you say home now and dealing with horrendous jet lag!

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    " horrendous jet lag!"

    What was the clutch slipping and everyone had to row?

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