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    I just recently completed my first 10000km service, all done by myself!

    I was initially a bit concerned about checking computer errors and resetting the reminder. It seemed that options would be to either buy an expensive GS911 for 350+ eur. or pay a dealer or motorcycle garage to do it.

    Then I came across this Android app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...gsoft.motoscan - which works via an OBD link device connected to the bike's computer port. The total cost of the app upgrade to reset service reminders + an OBD link device + cable was 100eur. I bought UniCar Scan which is sold by the developer of Motoscan and works with iPhones too (just in case they release an iPhone version of the app in the future or I want to use other apps on the iPhone).

    In the end computer errors were read and the service reminder was successfully reset. Highly recommended!

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    Hi Sergio,

    Just wondering which Motoscan Licence you bought? I'm in the process of doing exactly the same, service is due in under 100 miles and will be carried out by myself (this weekend). I've been searching for a secondhand GS911 diagnostic tool for a number of months now in anticipation of wanting to reset the service reminder and read any error codes but cheapest price I found was £180, looking at reviews of the Motoscan app all issues seemed to be with regards the OBDII adapter, so did the same as yourself and bought the developers UniCarScan tool, BMW bike specific cable and tested using the developers free "light" version. Now deciding which licence to buy.

    One advantage the UniCarScan tool has over the GS911 tool, which I hadn't realised until buying, is that it can be used with just about any other vehicle on the road that uses OBDII so the overwhelming majority of cars. You need appropriate software of course but there is plenty available some of it Open Source and at no cost. I've used it to reset the Engine Warning light on my wife's Saab 9-5 and read the error codes. That's been a nice added bonus.

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    Been using this since 2017 on my k13. End of last year the service options for the abs became available, great simple and cheap.
    The app handles almost all bmw bikes.

    I bought the ultimate version as that gets all the options like coding....

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    End of last year the service options for the abs became available, great simple and cheap.
    Hi Matthias, could you please give details on the ABS service procedure ? Are you guided by the app in what to do and when ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGD109 View Post
    Hi Sergio,

    Just wondering which Motoscan Licence you bought?
    I bought the Professional version, I think. It’s the middle-priced version. The most expensive version seemed overkill for my needs.

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    The app tells you what to do, but the abs service is only for when flushing or replacing the brakefluid, otherwise not needed.

    It is easy, like a normal bleed with the added part of running the pumps to flush the valves of old fluid. And the app tells you how step by step, it is i think 5 steps in total for a complete change/flush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGD109 View Post
    Hi Sergio,

    Just wondering which Motoscan Licence you bought? I'm in the process of doing exactly the same, service is due in under 100 miles and will be carried out by myself (this weekend). I've been searching for a secondhand GS911 diagnostic tool for a number of months now in anticipation of wanting to reset the service reminder and read any error codes but cheapest price I found was £180, looking at reviews of the Motoscan app all issues seemed to be with regards the OBDII adapter, so did the same as yourself and bought the developers UniCarScan tool, BMW bike specific cable and tested using the developers free "light" version. Now deciding which licence to buy.

    One advantage the UniCarScan tool has over the GS911 tool, which I hadn't realised until buying, is that it can be used with just about any other vehicle on the road that uses OBDII so the overwhelming majority of cars. You need appropriate software of course but there is plenty available some of it Open Source and at no cost. I've used it to reset the Engine Warning light on my wife's Saab 9-5 and read the error codes. That's been a nice added bonus.

    keep us informed please, on how and what you do with Motoscan as I was looking at this or biting the bullet for a GS911 when my current GT drops out of warranty.

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    any updates on what this can actually do on an F series bike? cheers bever (((-;

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    The current uses for me is to reset service interval reminders and read errors. I may use it to reset fuel maps. I haven't needed it for anything else, so can't comment on additional functionality.

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    and which OBD reader do you have? cheers Stewart

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    I have tried using the ultimate version to monitor the real time value of the clutch switch but to no avail. A GS-911 will do that however. I have both.

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    I'm not sure if the old USB connection version of the GS-911 will work on the updated GT, but it works on my 2014 just fine.

    Here's a link to one for $129 on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/GS-911-V100...IAAOSwQlhciRV3

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    I have the OBDLink LX adapter and ultimate software version. I haven't really played a lot with it as I had no reason to do so. For some reason I can't set the service reminder but I'm guessing one of the previous owners got this disabled as I don't get a service after disconnecting the battery. Wouldn't be surprised if Motoscan could get it enabled but it's hard to figure out what different options mean. That's the biggest problem with this app - there are a lot of options and they're often hard to decipher. Some don't work for some bike models, too.

    At some point in the future I'll check myself but it seems like you can program led indicators front/back, led tail light and led parking bulb (the small bulb in the headlight). Of course reading and clearing fault codes is an option, too. Overall, it's missing some functionality compared to the GS-911 but it allows coding of functions instead.

    Daboo, that eBay link is to a copycat GS-911 from China. It has old, hacked software and won't get any updates.

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    I hadn't noticed, Robert. Thanks.

    I'd still look for a used version of that model for all but the latest GTs and other F800s before they went ride-by-wire. I picked mine up used for about $100 from a co-worker who sold his BMW for a KTM. When I registered it, I got the full 10 VIN numbers available.

    I'd have to think about this, if I was going to buy one of those Chinese versions. Hex-Code no longer produces that model. Product updates would be meaningless for a 2014 GT, as any updates would've been done years before. Any new updates to the software are grandfathering in the old models to the new GS-911s. Did Hex-Code sell the patents for a discontinued model? I don't know. It gets into an ethics question of which I don't have all the info.

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    Did Hex-Code sell the patents for a discontinued model? I don't know. It gets into an ethics question of which I don't have all the info.

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    My money is backwards engineered knock off.

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    So did Motoscan do a backwards engineer job too? For that matter, did Hex-Code do a backwards engineering job to come up with the GS-911?

    I think there's some technicalities on how to do that legally, and what constitutes copywrite infrigingement? Luckily, I don't have to worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    , and what constitutes copywrite infrigingement? Luckily, I don't have to worry about it. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://f800riders.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif[/IMG]

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    Probably when it's named GS-911 and sold drastically cheaper than the original 😉 Oh, and sold en masse from an unauthorized seller of the original product. I'd say that's copyright infringement. Can motoscan do all the things GS-911 can do? If it can pair TPMs to the onboard computer, I'll take a closer look at its offerings.
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    I have the adapter designed by the app maker - https://www.motoscan.de/2017/04/27/u...-motoscan-app/ - I originally thought about getting the OBDLink LX, but I could get the UniCarScan cheaper in the EU, it's smaller and works with iOS devices via Bluetooth (the app doesn't, but it's a nice to have for other apps)

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    Hello,

    Motoscan / Coding app parts is always in german ?

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    App is in English and the developer also responds to support questions in English

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    App is not fully english. I bought full package. I've mailed her/him to translate helping but no answer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ero__ View Post
    App is not fully english. I bought full package. I've mailed her/him to translate helping but no answer...
    What part did you find was not in English?

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    All of service func. menu. Enterance is in English but deeper menus are all of in German. I've checked app options.

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    The latest update screwed something up, before all parts of the app were german is that was the chosen language, now parts are in german...sucks. Going to email vladimir.

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    He is working on the language problem, something went wrong apperently. But a fix is coming.

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    There is now MotoScan for BMW Motorcycles on the play store
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    A reviewer says it will reset the service reminder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukopia View Post
    There is now MotoScan for BMW Motorcycles on the play store
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    Definitely not when I got mine. I downloaded the "lite" free version to make sure my cable and Bluetooth adapter worked. I could explore menus and do random things like turning the cooling fan on and off but certainly could not reset service reminder I had to buy a licence for that.
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    It would be hard to believe, that the lite version allows to reset the service reminder.

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    It doesn't. The app is free, but there are unlock codes for various levels of functionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcb78 View Post
    It doesn't. The app is free, but there are unlock codes for various levels of functionality.
    I believe you are correct.
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    Anyone know if this will work with any OBDII scanner? I'm about to buy the adapter cable, but if I need to purchase their specific UniScanTool in addition to the MotoScan license, I might be better off just buying a generic USB GS-911 for ~$70 US.

    The only thing I'd be missing out on is the wireless connection from my current OBDII scanner (that I use for my car).

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    Any Bluetooth OBD reader will work - just make sure it's a good one, as some of the cheaper ones can have connectivity issues.
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    Good to know. If mine doesn't work, maybe I can convince my wife that our cars "need" one of the nicer scanners, since I do most of the maintenance myself if I can. That way I can use our car budget, instead my "toy" budget. =)

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    i use it for my bike and car too. A very handytool to have, for both the car and bike (both a BMW) i have the dedicated apps to reset service counters, error codes, coding etc. And the advantage is you can move it to your next vehicle too so you don't have to buy a dedicated reader, only an app which is far cheaper!
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    I am using the OBDLink LX that I got on Amazon for $60, it's on their approved list found here - https://www.motoscan.de/diagnoseadapter/
    Scroll down the page at that link and they go on to explain what is required for an adapter to be fully functional with the software and why many are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcb78 View Post
    I am using the OBDLink LX that I got on Amazon for $60, it's on their approved list found here - https://www.motoscan.de/diagnoseadapter/
    Scroll down the page at that link and they go on to explain what is required for an adapter to be fully functional with the software and why many are not.
    This seems to be it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9S71LW/
    OBDLink LX OBD2 Bluetooth Scanner for Android and Windows

    Plus this adapter cable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQSNBR2/
    OHP 10 to 16 Pin Diagnostic Scanner Female OBD2 Adapter for BMW Motorcycles Year 1996 to 2016 | GS911, OBDLink and Motorscan

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    Thanks for the info all. I went super cheap and ordered the adapter cable with no reviews. It has free returns, but now I'm thinking I should have just spent the extra $5 lol.

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    I just checked my OBD2 tool, and it's an ELM327 with v1.5 firmware. So, it can read codes and send some commands, but might not work with ABS. Also can't reset service, but I've never gotten a reminder on my bike in the 20k+ miles I've put on it.

    The motoscan site mentions it doesn't work on older "FTE ABS modules" so maybe my 2007 is "new" enough to work? Guess I'll find out when my cable comes in. Otherwise, I'll need to the get the OBDLink LX, since it's listed as fully-supported.

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    My cable adapter came in yesterday, so I tried connecting with my cheapo OBD2 reader and wasn't able to connect with the Motoscan app. It will sometimes detect my adapter, and I can see the lights blinking, but I can't access any menus. I'm not sure if it's my OBD2 reader or the cable, but I'm inclined to think it's the reader since the connection is spotty even when it's right up against my phone.

    I'll probably need to get the OBDLink LX, or maybe just a USB GS-911, as I didn't see a menu option for changing TPMS sensors in the motoscan app. Does anyone know if that's possible?

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    It is supposed to have that function.

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    Also, I didn't even see an option to upgrade the license. Is that only available within one of the sub-menus?

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    Click the menu bars from at the top left of the screen, then at the bottom will be a button to "Purchase License". Click that and it should list the various levels that you can purchase. They say you can always upgrade for the difference in price if decide later on that you want more functionality.

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    Ahh... so the BIG RED BUTTON that I completely overlooked, lol. Thanks!

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    Yup, that's the one

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodzghost View Post
    ........I didn't see a menu option for changing TPMS sensors in the motoscan app. Does anyone know if that's possible?
    I understand it's in the instrument coding somewhere. In my experience MotoScan respond to emails very fast even in English and not German ask the question be specific about bike model and what you want to do they will give you a definitive answer.
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    Good to know they're more responsive now. I read some old reviews/threads saying that the developer was slow to reply. Things must have changed since then.

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