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    Hey everyone,

    Just popping in to say hi after buying my first BMW an F800ST 1.5wks ago. Some of you may recognise her as her previous owner Don is on the forums and did a long post back in 2014 when he joined his first TS Safari.

    I call motorcycling my midlife crisis as I've only been riding for about 2yrs. Though I do ride on the road and also in the dirt (have a KTM for that).

    A little about me, I'm a 37yr old RN from Central QLD and got into riding thanks to my mechanic partner who is a mad pommy.

    The day I picked up my gorgeous new bike I rode her the 680km home, long day/night but achieved my longest ride to date. Have been getting out on her every chance I get. The day did start with a screw up on my behalf, I messed up on a roundabout, mounted a curb and ended up in a garden bed, however no damage to me or the bike and despite the rough start I got back on and rode the trip home.

    Anyway, nice to meet you all,

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    Go Alice! Don't worry about the garden bed, we have all our moments - I took out our mate Paul' s roses just trying to get into his driveway, on the last Safari in W.A.

    Welcome formally to the forum, I am glad we were of some assistance in getting you up and running in Eff territory. I suspect we will be meeting in person rather than the page, sooner rather than later.
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    Thanks for the warm welcome and I'm sure we will @IanA

    I've racked up a further 400+km on her since getting her home and I've now named her "Betsy" (beemer), only took me 1.5wks to pick a name . Easy to rack up the k's when you live in the middle of nowhere as we do! Mixture of the Bruce Hwy and "town" riding. Will be having my first pillion in a week or two (my lucky partner gets to be my first ) so that I can build up confidence before I have the teenager on the back.

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    Hola. Don't sweat the flower gardens and mind the big hairy things like the 'roos. A forest rat, deer, took out my ST. Same color as yours.Beautiful!

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    I remember that I've already given you the welcome to the forum somewhere else, but maybe I'm wrong. anyway I renew a warm welcome among us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guidoveloce View Post
    I remember that I've already given you the welcome to the forum somewhere else, but maybe I'm wrong. anyway I renew a warm welcome among us.
    My post keeps crossing over into the BMW Sports Riders forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by notacop View Post
    Hola. Don't sweat the flower gardens and mind the big hairy things like the 'roos. A forest rat, deer, took out my ST. Same color as yours.Beautiful!
    I live down a dirt road so avoiding roos and wallabies is second nature. Did manage to avoid an echidna that was crossing the Bruce in the middle of the night the day I rode her home.

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    "an echidna crossing the Bruce" Can't get more Oz than that!!

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    Yah, Ian. I'm like WTF? Except I'm part English in ancestry and have read some and listen to English folk music and passages like that seem to be the norm.
    I know Aus isn't England but there is a sort of connection there.
    I couldn't find the "the Bruce" but figured it is some waterway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notacop View Post
    Yah, Ian. I'm like WTF? Except I'm part English in ancestry and have read some and listen to English folk music and passages like that seem to be the norm.
    I know Aus isn't England but there is a sort of connection there.
    I couldn't the "the Bruce" but figured it is some waterway?
    The Bruce Highway also known as the A1, Australia's National Highway that runs from Victoria to the top end of QLD.

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    And I had to look up what a "echidna" was. Wikipedia has some interesting info on them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    And I had to look up what a "echidna" was. Wikipedia has some interesting info on them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna

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    OK, I think I saw the Bruce indicated on Google Earth when i checked there but was looking improperly for a river. Mark Knoffler refers to English rivers often enough in his songs.
    Google also kept trying to give me Bruce Springsteen, like that was going to help?

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    Headed out to Many Peaks today with the local ECFR group. Great ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zulujams View Post
    Welcome from another who started riding as part of a midlife crisis. I started before the actual crisis hits in a couple years--best to be prepared!
    Still being the right side of 40 hopefully means I started before the actual crisis lol

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    Still being the right side of 40 hopefully means I started before the actual crisis lol

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    That's my take on it! The big 5-0 is edging closer. I had been talking to a prior g/f about learning to ride just to learn. She bought me a two-day lesson package, and I loved it so much I got the license endorsement and after the g/f was gone soon after I picked up a bike since the instructor warned me that we must continue to practice or else I'll lose what I learned!
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    Welcome Alice, from the south coast of NSW. Midlife crisis at 37? Sheeeesh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by notacop View Post
    I couldn't find the "the Bruce" but figured it is some waterway?
    A section of the national highway that almost circumnavigates Australia. In my part of the country it's called the Princess Highway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    And I had to look up what a "echidna" was. Wikipedia has some interesting info on them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna

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    Yep. We have some truly 'weird' animals in Australia. One of the weirdest is Thylarctos Plummetus.
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    Yep. We have some truly 'weird' animals in Australia. One of the weirdest is Thylarctos Plummetus.
    But do you also have the multi-branded spandex-wearing Homo-Bicyclerus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by padaek View Post
    A section of the national highway that almost circumnavigates Australia. In my part of the country it's called the Princess Highway.
    Er, Yogi - down our way it is called the Princes Highway. Unless you have another agenda ?? LOL

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    Alice, we caught up with Donnie on the last few days of the TS Safari. He sends his best wishes and is really pleased you are enjoying Betsy Beemer.
    I will be meeting him again at the Aus MotoGP Phillip Island next week, he is really racking up the klix these days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanA View Post
    Alice, we caught up with Donnie on the last few days of the TS Safari. He sends his best wishes and is really pleased you are enjoying Betsy Beemer.
    I will be meeting him again at the Aus MotoGP Phillip Island next week, he is really racking up the klix these days!
    Tell him I say G'day.

    Betsy and I had our first fall/drop last weekend whilst out with a local social group, ride through Gladstone then onto Lake Awoonga for a BBQ. The carpark being steep got the better of me and with handlebars locked over and fearing I was about to hit a car whilst going uphill into a carspace (not the best choice in retrospect) I grabbed the brakes and she decided to go down, but she did have an assisted drop so only damage was a snapped footpeg and the indicator popped out. Both easily repaired when we got home as the old man welded the footpeg back together and simply unscrewing the indicator allowed it to clip back together.

    I have switched back to the standard pegs for a trial however as I was having difficulty reaching the rear brake, the angle and my ankle were not compatible (ankle reconstruction in February this year so it will only go so far). Had the same issue in my KTM but was able to adjust the position of the brake pedal on it.

    I will be getting a new MadStad adjustable windshield for her that goes higher as currently all the wind hits my face. And the topbox will be exchanged for my larger one as I only just fit my helmet in the current one and when I do the groceries I need more space, also for storing my gear when I'm at work.

    Not been on a ride this week as started my new job and don't have a day off till the weekend. But will probably get out for a ride on Sunday.

    If we don't do it before then we will be riding to Sydney in mid January. It my sons 16th Birthday so going to see my dad and grandma. Plus Jim and I have tickets to see Elton John. I do plan on a few day trips down the south coast and stuff too.

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    Er, Yogi - down our way it is called the Princes Highway. Unless you have another agenda ?? LOL
    Yeah,, the extra 'S' is for the series of bends just this side of Eden
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    I will be meeting him again at the Aus MotoGP Phillip Island next week, he is really racking up the klix these days!
    I could have gone down for the GP. The Facebook group I'm involved in, had a couple of spots left due to a couple of late cancellations. My father has not been well so motorcycling has taken a bit of a backseat. Next year maybe.

    I'll invite a few friends around, toss various pieces of dead animal on the barbie, drink some weak tea and watch the GP on the idiot box.
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    Welcome to the F8club.

    Looks like your using the bike, that is a good sign, it shows your enjoying your rides.

    Any issues you feel you have alway's ask. Madstad screen, a brilliant idea, I have one and have posted about it here. Start the set up with the screen - roughly half way up, set the angle in a similar angle to that of the original screen. Then ride, with your left hand, lift it up to you face and continue up until you feel the air, which should be around the top part of your helmet to the visor. this should be your comfort zone. Try the screen forward as far as it will go without changing the height and do the hand test again. If you find your head is being bounced around a bit tilt the screen back a fraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flook View Post
    Welcome to the F8club.

    Looks like your using the bike, that is a good sign, it shows your enjoying your rides.

    Any issues you feel you have alway's ask. Madstad screen, a brilliant idea, I have one and have posted about it here. Start the set up with the screen - roughly half way up, set the angle in a similar angle to that of the original screen. Then ride, with your left hand, lift it up to you face and continue up until you feel the air, which should be around the top part of your helmet to the visor. this should be your comfort zone. Try the screen forward as far as it will go without changing the height and do the hand test again. If you find your head is being bounced around a bit tilt the screen back a fraction.

    Anyway, have fun, which you seem to be having.

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    Thanks for the warm welcome and the tips!

    Racked up close to 3000km since I got her and getting more comfortable with Betsy every ride. My first week of my new job was so intense I've not been out on her in a week but may try get out Sunday or Monday.

    Am I right in guessing you are in the northern UK? My partner/mechanic is from Yorkshire. I've still not let him ride Betsy though not sure I will either as he rides like a twat.

    The Madstad screen will be my Christmas present to myself along with a lambswool seat cover. Leave her sat in the sun for even a few minutes and my rear end is cooking when I get back on.

    Quick question for the forum regulars, best and easiest way to check coolant levels?

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    Coolant levels, erm, sorry I can't help much with that as living in the UK we do not have the warm weather like you have down under.

    If he rides like a twat, then do not let him anywhere near your bike, otherwise she may become an upset Betsy
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    There is a small view of the expansion tank through the right side panel. If you look at the BMW roundel, move in the 10 o'clock direction and you'll notice a vertical slit. It's actually visible in the picture you posted.

    Now, having said this, the view is poor. A flashlight and a dark garage helps. The alternative is to remove the plastic panel (which requires the faux gas tank cover to be removed and the right side mirror.

    Absent some kind of malfunction or having air in the system, cooling on the F8 is extremely reliable. Many anecdotes exist on this forum of long days in very hot temperatures and the temperature gauge never going above half.

    Welcome! And enjoy your beautiful motorcycle. Great colour choice.
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    Thanks @Runmyownlife

    I have done as suggested with the torch but it really is a crappy place to have it. The temp guage hasn't gone over halfway even on 35C days but it will get hotter and my OCD wants to ensure the coolant is fine. So I guess it will be removing the panel to check +/- top up. Bloody German engineering

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceNicho View Post
    Thanks @Runmyownlife

    I have done as suggested with the torch but it really is a crappy place to have it.




    When the time came to change the fluid, I went with a brand that ordered a pink coloured fluid. I find this provided a better contrast than pale green fluid through the translucent yellow plastic overflow container.

    (For those in America, please don't use a torch when viewing your motorcycle. Unless you intend to set things on fire. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runmyownlife View Post
    When the time came to change the fluid, I went with a brand that ordered a pink coloured fluid. I find this provided a better contrast than pale green fluid through the translucent yellow plastic overflow container.

    (For those in America, please don't use torch when viewing your motorcycle. Unless you intend to set things on fire. )
    That's a great tip, thank you!

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    God men are so fucking stubborn! My mechanic partner just instigated an argument with me over this and is certain he knows better and bright green will be more visible... Will be glad when I do open it up to show him the green is shit and that's why it's not visible so stop being a stubborn know it all and take the advice of people who own this bike!

    (sorry for the rant just pissed off at the old man who always has to know more, even tries to tell me he knows more about my bike but has never ridden one or worked on one and knows more about nursing than myself who has been doing it for over a decade) men!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runmyownlife View Post
    When the time came to change the fluid, I went with a brand that ordered a pink coloured fluid. I find this provided a better contrast than pale green fluid through the translucent yellow plastic overflow container.
    )
    And suddenly it all makes sense as to why, no matter how bright a light I employ to look at the coolant level I simply see an empty expansion tank. I'm colour blind struggle with green, the trick for me is to rock the bike slightly the coolant moves and that to my eye gives it's presence away.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliceNicho;2812901[QUOTE=AliceNicho View Post
    .......My mechanic partner just instigated an argument with me over this and is certain he knows better and bright green will be more visible.. …...….and knows more about nursing than myself who has been doing it for over a decade) men!!!!!!
    You can take the man out of Yorkshire but.....

    I'm off to Ilkley Moor and despite the inclement weather I will steadfastly refuse to wear a suitably warm hat!! (Your mechanic may need to explain)
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    [QUOTE=MGD109;2812917]And suddenly it all makes sense as to why, no matter how bright a light I employ to look at the coolant level I simply see an empty expansion tank. I'm colour blind struggle with green, the trick for me is to rock the bike slightly the coolant moves and that to my eye gives it's presence away.

    [QUOTE=AliceNicho;2812901

    You can take the man out of Yorkshire but.....

    I'm off to Ilkley Moor and despite the inclement weather I will steadfastly refuse to wear a suitably warm hat!! (Your mechanic may need to explain)[/QUOTE]He did, poor old sod he is would never cope. He is way to acclimatised to Australia and puts the heat on in winter (the 1 week of winter we have"!

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    Oh what jolly japes you all seem to be having.

    Okay serious stuff. Some time ago someone put on this site a way of viewing this without all the shenanigans of torches, blow lamps and so on. If I recall correctly the side panel was removed and a neon or neon's were placed behind this small plastic tank and wired into the circuitry, so with the side panel re-placed and with the ignition turned on the neon/s light up to display the cooling tank and thus show the level inside.

    Now young Alice, get your nice young fella who as you say is a mechanical genius, is he also a genius in the electrics dept. If so, ask him very kindly if he would carry out this idea. I am most sure he would consider it a challenge having to use his grey cells to give his sweetheart pleasure to be able to see the liquid in question quite clearly.

    Okay, now I have a headache

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flook View Post
    Oh what jolly japes you all seem to be having.

    Okay serious stuff. Some time ago someone put on this site a way of viewing this without all the shenanigans of torches, blow lamps and so on. If I recall correctly the side panel was removed and a neon or neon's were placed behind this small plastic tank and wired into the circuitry, so with the side panel re-placed and with the ignition turned on the neon/s light up to display the cooling tank and thus show the level inside.

    Now young Alice, get your nice young fella who as you say is a mechanical genius, is he also a genius in the electrics dept. If so, ask him very kindly if he would carry out this idea. I am most sure he would consider it a challenge having to use his grey cells to give his sweetheart pleasure to be able to see the liquid in question quite clearly.

    Okay, now I have a headache

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    Thanks Flook, weirdly enough he agreed and said "yeah that would work", so looks like he has a project to do this weekend

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    Alice, now you know why we know His Holiness as Pope Flook! and I think an LED might be a bit easier to install than a neon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanA View Post
    Alice, now you know why we know His Holiness as Pope Flook! and I think an LED might be a bit easier to install than a neon...
    Whatever works and the old man installs I'll be happy with I swapped my top box over tonight so have my larger one on now, at least 2 helmets will fit in it or with it and the panniers I can do an almost full grocery shop.

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    Alice, look at the “Word association”, take part and have a laugh with a play on words
    MGD109, try the neon or led suggestions re posts 42 & 44. This should help
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    After a few busy weeks at my new job I finally got out for a ride on Betsy and boy was it great even if it was just a grocery run (120km round trip up here). I'm trusting her and my tyres more, keeping the pace through the bends and leaning more through the corners. Plus I'm no longer terrified of roundabouts in her.

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    Hi Alice,

    There's a great online resource at 'motojitsu.com' to help you improve your skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mariner View Post
    Hi Alice,

    There's a great online resource at 'motojitsu.com' to help you improve your skills.
    It was more about getting in tune with Betsy. My old bike I did this all with ease but 2yrs of riding you do. Going from a 250 to an 800 with about a 60kg weight difference and distribution along with the power difference it was like learning all my skills over again. I shook myself up mounting a curb by stuffing up on a roundabout the day I picked her up (still rode the 680km home after) and have been relearning all my skills and learning to trust Betsy on the road. Plus getting over my roundabout fear

    I am feeling more as 1 with her and it's all a lot easier and even more enjoyable.

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    Alice have you tried accelerating out of a corner, this helps build your self belief and you feel great while your still on a lean and accelerating at the same time. Also, as you enter corners drop down a cog but don't de-accelerate, then as above out of the corner. You will start to get a buzz out of that.
    I find in doing what I have said, I enjoy riding even more, just look at a point ahead of you, not at the kerb, or the middle, as what I found was I tended to steer where I looked, roundabouts I look at where I want to exit, check quickly the road conditions, if road damage look for the best side then look up, you will surprise yourself.

    Enjoy Betsy

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