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    Hi, I'm settled on buying 2012 f800st with 24500 miles/40000 km on it. On what should I look to further drop the price. Valve and belt checks are on 24k miles, tyres etc? Some small things to ask. When doing test ride what should I hear/feel apart from vibration in some rpm range's.
    What might be the problems for 2012 model if any as I hope they fixed all on last year of production.
    Ergonomically I know I'll have to get touring windscreen, higher seat and possibly lowered pegs as I'm 6feet/183cm tall. From everything I've read on the forums it's an ideal match from my purposes: commuting including lane splitting, touring and most notably having good fuel economy europe the land of expensive fuel

    Thanks for suggestions in advance.

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    Buy at the month end if it’s a dealer!! You didn’t say from what price? Most BMW’s just don’t come cheap. It’s generally sports bikes at this time of year. I’ve just bought one with high mileage and if serviced well can be bomb proof

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    welcome to the forum.
    you must check that all the recalls have been done, then, considering that the 2012 model is the last one produced, there are no typical problems of that bike that haven't been fixed in the previous series. you will surely be surprised of the reliability of that bike. the F800 is one of the best bike I've ever had. some users had to change the alternator, but I suppose that there is no way to know if you will need to do it until it works, because if it will be broken will stop suddenly to work.
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    Welcome to the forum from the coast of Kansas! You are buying the same bike I have (I bought it new in Aug 2012) and it has been virtually bullet-proof. All I have done are routine services and several sets of new tires. I have ridden all over the western 2/3s of the USA (28 states and approx. 32K miles) and have averaged over 55 mpg in that distance and time. Nothing specific to look for because nothing every breaks, wear items simply wear out. Try it for a while before you change the ergonomics, you might find--as I did--that the seat, pegs, bars and windshield are just right for commuting and touring. Only design issue for me was the limited output of the electrical system (only about 410w) which is too little for using electric gear in cold weather. I compensate by running in lower gear and keeping the RPM at 4k-4.5k when I have my heated gear and heated grips on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigcraft View Post
    Buy at the month end if it’s a dealer!! You didn’t say from what price? Most BMW’s just don’t come cheap. It’s generally sports bikes at this time of year. I’ve just bought one with high mileage and if serviced well can be bomb proof
    Yes it a dealer, forgot to mention. Whats the difference if i buy at the end of the month? It's 3590gbp and yes sports bike do drop in price in winter for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidoveloce View Post
    welcome to the forum.
    you must check that all the recalls have been done, then, considering that the 2012 model is the last one produced, there are no typical problems of that bike that haven't been fixed in the previous series. you will surely be surprised of the reliability of that bike. the F800 is one of the best bike I've ever had. some users had to change the alternator, but I suppose that there is no way to know if you will need to do it until it works, because if it will be broken will stop suddenly to work.
    Please, we appreciate that you introduce yourself to the community posting a new thread in the proper section. it's not necessary but in this way you can have a nice first contact with most of the members.
    Hi, the only recall I found was that rear wheel bearing, but that was fixed from 2009 ownards. Just wanted to introduce with some images of bike too, but yes it was in my plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce View Post
    Welcome to the forum from the coast of Kansas! You are buying the same bike I have (I bought it new in Aug 2012) and it has been virtually bullet-proof. All I have done are routine services and several sets of new tires. I have ridden all over the western 2/3s of the USA (28 states and approx. 32K miles) and have averaged over 55 mpg in that distance and time. Nothing specific to look for because nothing every breaks, wear items simply wear out. Try it for a while before you change the ergonomics, you might find--as I did--that the seat, pegs, bars and windshield are just right for commuting and touring. Only design issue for me was the limited output of the electrical system (only about 410w) which is too little for using electric gear in cold weather. I compensate by running in lower gear and keeping the RPM at 4k-4.5k when I have my heated gear and heated grips on.

    Good luck.
    Pretty nice I'd say. Windscreen supposedly is so low to help rider be upright from what I've read, may I ask how tall are you? About alternator power output I'm not planing to attach lots of gizmos anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namejs View Post
    Pretty nice I'd say. Windscreen supposedly is so low to help rider be upright from what I've read, may I ask how tall are you? About alternator power output I'm not planing to attach lots of gizmos anytime soon.
    I'm about 5'10" in socks, but my riding boots add about an inch, I guess. Pretty close to your measurements. The windshield does a great job of putting the wind in your chest and helping hold your torso upright and keeping some weight off your wrists. I wear a full-face helmet with earplugs, thus the wind noise is minimal and not at all bothersome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namejs View Post
    .........On what should I look to further drop the price. Valve and belt checks are on 24k miles, tyres etc? Some small things to ask........
    Welcome Namejs,

    First thing I would suggest is just confirm it's not been factory lowered it was on option on the ST you'd not be the first to inadvertently buy a low one there is also a low seat but that's just a simple seat swap to sort out, given your height you'd not want either

    With regards bargaining chips I'd be looking at the options fitted, lots comes as standard on the F800s but center stand, tyre pressure monitor, alarm/immobilizer (maybe some others) were options on late STs
    if any are missing worth suggesting to the dealer the bike is almost perfect but if only it had whatever as an option.
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    I hope everything is fine so far?

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    So I've bought a bmw f800st , images coming soon. I'd like to say it was my most comfortable ride back second being riding back from passing big bike licence on ducati monster. Yet there was big, like near direful incident, after 8 miles from dealer at a petrol station fuel started leaking from tank while filling up the bike. Yes imagine what a messed up day it could have been. In the end dealer arranged van pick up, replaced part - rubber seal at fuel pump, apologized and said that it's a common problem to f800 models (anyone can confirm this?) as they replaced it to one of their prior f800 model. They also serviced it, new battery, fork seals, fork oil, spark plugs, belt too and a added 3 month/1000miles warranty.
    I guess number 3 isn't my lucky number as this is my third bike.

    The leg space wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, I do believe it's with stock windscreen and it's decent. The seat is standard, quite comfortable to be honest comparing to sv650s one. Bike came with side panniers and a top box all bmw one's.

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    I would say it was your lucky day, since they added the service and the belt!
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    That's a good one! If leakng fuel was a "common problem" there'd be no F800 to buy. Also, many lawsuits.

    I think someone made a mistake (as Cramer suggested). The dealer certainly did well making up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namejs View Post
    So I've bought a bmw f800st , images coming soon. .....

    The leg space wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, I do believe it's with stock windscreen and it's decent. The seat is standard, quite comfortable to be honest comparing to sv650s one. Bike came with side panniers and a top box all bmw one's.
    Show pics pppppppllllllllllllease
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    Haha WildWilly I can totally relate to that. Every ride now is so relaxing, smooth throttle, comfortable seat and powerful brakes.( how can one differentiate standard from comfort seat?). Even the pillion said its A lot more comfortable than my previous sv650s was. I don't know why ,but it feels a lot more planted on the road. Some of the roads before now feel like glue to the tyres, I suppose that's because of lower center of gravity.
    My only reference for comparing is sv650s fyi.
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    Unusual colour scheme, can't remember seeing that mix before. Very nice!

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    Not the best camera man.
    Exact color scheme of mine. I think it's the best color for the ST.
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    IMO that is the best colour scheme they did, outside of standard block colours.

    That back tyre looks a bit flat on the profile, Is it squared off at all?
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    I’d say you exaggerating Dabbo. Dj123 it’s camera angle, rear tyre has plenty of life in it.
    Already having first struggles with heated grips. Yesterday checked them when bike was stationery and they worked. For some reason when turning them on after 5min in ride they don’t heat up. At what point you turn them on?

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    They should work no problem at all speeds. Have you got it on the 1st or 2nd setting?
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    Is there a indicator on dashboard that shows that heated grips are on? Yesterday I rode back to my place and they weren’t warning on. Turned bike on and engine only afterwards switched on highest heat setting.

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    not on the ST there isn't a dashboard illumination.

    Do the grips look worn? or if there could be any obvious reason they don't work?
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    Good thing that everything turned out lightly and congratulations on the new motorcycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namejs View Post
    Haha WildWilly I can totally relate to that. Every ride now is so relaxing, smooth throttle, comfortable seat and powerful brakes.( how can one differentiate standard from comfort seat?). Even the pillion said its A lot more comfortable than my previous sv650s was. I don't know why ,but it feels a lot more planted on the road. Some of the roads before now feel like glue to the tyres, I suppose that's because of lower center of gravity.
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    Hi Namejs. Your bike looks very good and I believe you will have a lot of fun with it. Congrats for the new "toy". I bought a F800ST 2007 about 8 months ago and unfortunately it had a lot of problems. I strong believe the previous owner never took care of the bike and after abusing it a lot just sold to a dealer that couldn't care to do it's job properly. Since I bought it I have changed the fork oil, fork seals, clutch disks, stator( this seems to be a common problem in some F800, it just burn out), timing chain tensioner and valve cover gasket. Due a recall BMW replaced the rear wheel ball bearing. Still after all those changes the bike now has a problem that won't start at all. All the timing chain adjustment has been done, all the valve clearance has been check but nothing. As I said I believe the bike had all these problems due a bad maintenance from previous owner and the dealer. I am in Australia and motorcycle dealers here couldn't care less about the used product they sell and until I started riding the bike I couldn't know about it. I believe you will not face these problems but always keep your eyes and ears open for anything you think it is not normal and maintain your bike so you will have it for long time. BMW is a reliable machine (that is my 3rd one).
    My point is to bring up that maintenance is a key for keep our bikes in great shape. Enjoy your bike, ride carefully and have a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superduper View Post
    Very nice bike, enjoy, best motorcycle out there for commuting, don’t know why they stopped making it.
    I’m in the market to find a good late model with low miles and just store it until the one I have gets over 200,000 miles. I have my eyes open.
    Jason, mine might be available for you. Benefits: it's the last model year produced and it has only 32K on the clock. Difficulty: getting it to Florida from the coast of Kansas.
    I have my eye on a G310R or G310GS.

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    DJ123- from how worn they look they are definitely from new and yes they looks worn. Thing is if I get them to heat up stationary later in ride they just turn off. Probably the heating element went.

    mmF800ST- Yea, first generations of any bike usually have flaws to be fixed hence I went for newest year for the budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namejs View Post
    Haha WildWilly I can totally relate to that. Every ride now is so relaxing, smooth throttle, comfortable seat and powerful brakes.( how can one differentiate standard from comfort seat?). Even the pillion said its A lot more comfortable than my previous sv650s was. I don't know why ,but it feels a lot more planted on the road. Some of the roads before now feel like glue to the tyres, I suppose that's because of lower center of gravity.
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    I bought the same color 2012 a couple of years ago with about 10k miles on it for $6,500. Coolest color scheme, love it! As someone else mentioned, this was the last model year for the ST, and they definitely got it right. I've put 25k miles on it and had no problems of any kind. I replaced the belt myself (very easy job), and put in a hyperpro lowering kit front and back. Handles amazing. Check the tires. How many miles on them and just as important, how old are they? I just put Michelin PR5's on mine (highly recommend them). I also put a GPR slip-on exhaust can on it. Not sure it adds anything power-wise, but sounds a lot better.

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