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    Damn! I had to wait months for my 2 shots, if I had known that before, I had taken my blue pills!
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    Cuba has started to vaccinate their toddlers.

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    During the Texas Great Freeze Blackout of 2021 my old friend Dennis and his wife sat outside by a bonfire with the 40’ish year old couple across the street and became great friends. Now his new friend, whatever his name was, was taken by Covid -19 and my friend is pissed. He said, “Everything changed with the Delta. Delta has become an IQ Test.”

    Harsh but he is fed up like most of us here in the US with this thing lingering due to people who previously took every vaccine now being convinced this one is bad. News Flash! This pandemic is bad! And no, the entire World is not playing along to hurt Trump like my other old friend thinks. Love is lacking badly at the moment….
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighning View Post
    During the Texas Great Freeze Blackout of 2021 my old friend Dennis and his wife sat outside by a bonfire with the 40’ish year old couple across the street and became great friends. Now his new friend, whatever his name was, was taken by Covid -19 and my friend is pissed. He said, “Everything changed with the Delta. Delta has become an IQ Test.”

    Harsh but he is fed up like most of us here in the US with this thing lingering due to people who previously took every vaccine now being convinced this one is bad. News Flash! This pandemic is bad! And no, the entire World is not playing along to hurt Trump like my other old friend thinks. Love is lacking badly at the moment….
    My thoughts are the same. And why are there so many first responders and medical staff so afraid of getting the vaccine? It has probably been extensively tested more than any other vaccine in history without people having severe reactions than any other vaccine that they have taken in the past. It just doesn't make any sense. When the TV reporters interview anti-vaxxers, they typically respond that it is all about "freedom". Which freedom is that? The freedom to get sick and potentially die, or the freedom to infect others?
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    Its still on my bucket list to do a loop through Wa. State this year, might be in the snow but will still go?

    Rep. Brian Higgins of New York has been fighting to reopen the Canada/U.S. land border for months. He joins Power & Politics to discuss its reopening to fully vaccinated Canadians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard230 View Post
    My thoughts are the same. And why are there so many first responders and medical staff so afraid of getting the vaccine? It has probably been extensively tested more than any other vaccine in history without people having severe reactions than any other vaccine that they have taken in the past. It just doesn't make any sense.
    Actually, it wasn't tested. Testing normally takes years. Hence the Emergency Use Authorization. You are the test subjects. Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin were black-balled because they would be treatments that would prevent the EUA...and billions in profits. Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are being used very effectively in other countries. India was on the ropes at one point earlier in the year...then they started using Ivermectin.

    In the letter, Lee described observing “entirely healthy individuals suffering serious, often fatal, injuries,” including transverse myelitis, resulting in quadriplegia, pneumocystis pneumonia, multi-system organ failure, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, postpartum hemorrhagic shock and septic shock.
    Lee, a practicing physician for more than 20 years, said she “never witnessed so many vaccine-related injuries until this year.”

    • Former Pfizer VP: ‘Clear evidence of fraud’ in Pfizer study claiming 95% jab efficacy
    • How Fauci’s BIG LIE Created the Covid Pandemic
      A very powerful, influential person told the world in early 2020 that the new China virus that leads to COVID-19 infection was especially lethal. It quickly pushed a fast, enormous response to protect public health. Was the truth was being told? It was not. There was an exaggeration of the new vaccine lethality for the entire population. In truth, it was only severe for the oldest age category. Helped by corrupt data from CDC, overstatement of COVID lethality continues today to maintain public fear.
    • NBA Player Got Blood Clots From COVID Vaccine that Ends His Season – NBA Told Him to Keep It Quiet (VIDEO)
      Brandon Goodwin, an NBA player with the Atlanta Hawks, admitted recently that he got blood clots from the COVID vaccine that ended his season and possibly his career.

      Goodwin said the NBA told him to keep it quiet.


      Brandon Goodwin told “I got sick, and I never quite recovered from it. I would always have back pain. I was just super tired in the games. I was so tired. I felt like I couldn’t run up and down the court. My back was hurting. My back really started hurting bad. Then, I’m like, ‘OK. I need to go to the doctor. That’s when I found out I had blood clots. That all within the span of a month. ”


    There is so much more info out there, but the MSM and social media giants censor what they don't want you to know.

    One last article on the safety of the experimental gene injection.


    VAERS data released Friday by the CDC included a total of 726,965 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 15,386 deaths and 99,410 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and Sept. 17, 2021.
    Data released Sept. 17 by the CDC showed that between Dec. 14, 2020 and Sept. 17, 2021, a total of 726,965 adverse events following COVID vaccines were reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The data included a total of 15,386 reports of deaths — an increase of 461 over the previous week.
    There were 99,410 reports of serious injuries, including deaths, during the same time period — up 7,887 compared with the previous week.
    Excluding “foreign reports” filed in VAERS, 569,294 adverse events, including 6,981 deaths and 44,481 serious injuries, were reported in the U.S. between Dec. 14, 2020 and Sept. 17, 2021.
    Of the 6,981 U.S. deaths reported as of Sept. 17, 12% occurred within 24 hours of vaccination, 17% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination and 30% occurred in people who experienced an onset of symptoms within 48 hours of being vaccinated.

    The data shows that this is not the no-brainer vaccine that everyone should get. Natural immunity from having COVID already, is being totally dismissed...yet I've read it is 20 times more effective.

    So you ask yourself "why". Why is it so important to get a vaccine for which in some age groups, the vaccine is more deadly than the virus? Why get a vaccine that isn't a vaccine...till they changed the definition of vaccine earlier this year? And we haven't even broached the subject yet of the end game as far as The Great Reset plays into this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard230 View Post
    When the TV reporters interview anti-vaxxers, they typically respond that it is all about "freedom". Which freedom is that? The freedom to get sick and potentially die, or the freedom to infect others?
    How about the freedom of "My body, my choice?" Or does that only work selectively like when talking about abortion? I could site many sources that show the masks are worthless, the lockdowns don't work, and obviously the vaccines don't work. If the vaccines worked so well, why are the countries with the highest ratio of vaccinations...also having their hospitals filled with vaccinated COVID patients? Israel and Gibraltar come to mind. COVID rates went up dramatically in 2021...after we started vaccinating a major portion of our population.

    There are so many adverse effects of these experimental gene injections, and the thought is that while the effectiveness goes away in 6 months or less, the "bad" stuff in them keeps accumulating in the body.

    And meanwhile, I have a better than 99% chance of recovering from the virus?

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    That's the funniest sermon I've heard in years, thanks.


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    If you read the Doctors letter it list 6 cases "approximately half" (so maths is not her strong point) being fatal non of which, by the Doctors own admission, had a proven link to any vaccine. The headline is typical of websites that have an agenda to push. For clarity the Doctor is double jabbed.

    Just about every adult I know personally has had the double jab, worse outcome was two days flue like symptoms. If the headline was to be believed we would all be seeing friends, relations and work colleague dropping like flies.

    I've known probably no more than 20 people develop Covid-19 (people who have returned a positive test) most have simply felt like they have had a bad cold, two have died. I'll be getting my booster jab when offered.
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    Just got a text from a friend of mine. Boeing is requiring every employee get jabbed. Here's his text.
    Ed's coworker just folded yesterday and got pzifer shot. She had covid 4 months ago.
    Yeah, she just got checked into ICU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post

    Ed's coworker just folded yesterday and got pzifer shot. She had covid 4 months ago.
    Yeah, she just got checked into ICU


    So you have a friend, he knows somebody (Ed) he has a co-worker who has been vaccinated and subsequently been admitted into an ICU ward, that's a third hand anecdote, I'm making an assumption here but by the tone of your friends text (use of the term "folded") suggest he is an antivaxer (feel free to correct if I'm wrong). A third hand anecdote from somebody with an agenda is hardly somewhere I'd be getting credible information from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    Just got a text from a friend of mine. Boeing is requiring every employee get jabbed..
    Really good news to hear that a global organisation, whose business strength is based on safety and testing, is backing the worldwide vaccination program.

    Thanks for bringing out attention to this Chris, good work



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post

    .......And we haven't even broached the subject yet of the end game as far as The Great Reset plays into this.


    I have wondered, once it became apparent that the nonsense being discussed on QAnon was fantasy, how many of those "believers", instead of shrugging their shoulders, wondering how they could have been taken in by such blatant fabrications and try not to be so gullible in future, have instead switched their attention to the Great Reset.
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    Good Lord......
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    Good Lord......
    I totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    You can laugh all you want. It doesn't change the truth.
    Totally agree, irrational thoughts at any time is a worrying sign.



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    My wife and I had our booster shots today with no side effects.

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    I'm glad it worked out for you.

    There's a thread over on the Kawasaki Concours Owners Group forum on "Vaccine Hesitancy". Lots of good info there. Sad to say, this is the last post from a couple minutes ago.

    Scary Harry said:
    Welp...just got an email from a dear friend of mine in Colorado. His brother, who was perfectly healthy, elected to receive the 2nd jab on Monday. Sadly, he passed away last night. No other details other than it was from the vaccine.
    There's links over there on how nursing staff absolutely will not take the jab. If they won't...maybe they know something more than I do, and I should pay attention to them.

    I thought it interesting today that when I went to my Primary Care doctor, they asked if I'd had my flu shot yet, and I said "no". Then if I'd had my COVID shot, and I said, "no". They didn't try to convince me that I should get them. Normally, I get the flu shot. I've done that for decades. Half a century? (not quite, but close) Gosh, I'm getting old. But this year, I may opt out. I've heard several people who weren't in the military like I was say they don't get the flu vaccine and they don't catch the flu.

    One of the tests they'll do with the blood they took, will be to see if I had COVID last August. If I did, that was one of the easiest flu bugs I've ever had to get over. Temp was 102F for a few days. There was some gastro-intestinal discomfort...enough to know things down there weren't quite right, but not enough to be concerned. And some shortness of breath. That last is the only one I was concerned about.

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    Had my booster shot yesterday, left shoulder.
    Also flu shot right shoulder.
    No side effects, well... kinda sore shoulders but that was expected.
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    Wife had booster jab start of week with flu jab a week or so earlier.

    Only side effect she reported was presence, while in queue for booster jab, of belligerent "free thinking" anti vaccination type trying to frighten others with his pseudo science mumbo jumbo.

    Looking forward to my booster scheduled for next month.



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    I am not due for my third shot for another month, but I did get a flu shot a couple of weeks ago. It was a drive-through clinic (in my case, it was a motorcycle push-in) at Kaiser and there were so many people lined up to get the shot that it took me an hour before I was able to get vaccinated. And it looked like they might be that busy all day long, five days a week. While there may be a relatively few people who don't want to get any sort of vaccination, I believe they get a lot more exposure in the press than they deserve. Everyone that I know is fully vaccinated and has never had a problem other than a sore shoulder for a day or two. And no one that I know first-hand (not third-hand on some forum) has ever had Covid or the flu.
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    I'm glad you don't live in Seattle, Richard. You would've been waiting in the rain for an hour.

    Here's a few articles that I've come across that make me extremely hesitant to get the experimental gene injection.

    Illinois Reports 77.7% of Its Covid Deaths Last Week Were ‘Vaccinated’

    The “Pandemic of the Unvaccinated” narrative continues to crumble under the weight of facts. All of the data coming in indicates that those “fully vaccinated” against Covid-19 are just as likely to contract, get hospitalized, and die from the disease as the unvaccinated. Yet the push for anti-science mandates continues unabated with few lawmakers, nobody in mainstream media, and only a handful of brave medical professionals speaking out against them.


    The latest hit to the narrative comes out of Illinois where the numbers seem to indicate the Covid jabs aren’t just ineffective, but those who have been injected may be MORE susceptible to the disease, particularly the rising variants.

    ...77.7% is an astounding number by itself, but when we consider the Mayo Clinic‘s numbers indicate 54.4% of Illinois’ population is fully vaccinated, it’s easy to see why nobody in corporate media is touching this story.
    Seventy-seven percent of the COVID deaths when only 54.4% of the population is vaccinated. That makes me wonder if the vaccine is effective at all, and if it doesn't make you more prevalent to get sick.


    It’s Now Irrefutable: COVID-19 Mass Vaccinations Prove to Be a Massive Failure

    Gibraltar, a territory with a population of around 34,000, began vaccination in December 2020 with only 1,040 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and five deaths. After a comprehensive vaccination program that extended to many visitors, the number of new infections increased five-fold to 5,314 and the number of deaths increased 19-fold to 97.


    This would be around 2,853 deaths per million, which is one of the highest European mortality records.


    However, those who are responsible for the vaccination denied any causal link...


    Malta, with an 84 percent vaccine coverage, saw the pandemic rise again in July 2021 with fatal variants. Iceland, with a 75 percent complete vaccination cycle, saw daily infections rise from about 10 to 120 daily infection rates, stabilizing at a rate that is higher than the pre-vaccination period. This convinced its chief epidemiologist of the impossibility of herd immunity.


    Belgium boasts complete vaccination for 65 percent of its population, but at the end of June 2021, the number of new daily infections has risen from less than 500 to nearly 2,000 due to the delta variant. (Related: Nearly all “covid” deaths in September occurred in the fully vaccinated.)


    Israel, which championed the use of Pfizer vaccines, has a 70 percent fully vaccinated population. However, the COVID-19 cases rebounded in June 2021, with more than 11,000 cases recorded in one day in September – surpassing the peaks seen in January 2021, during the outbreak following the first Pfizer injections. By the end of July, 71 percent of the recorded seriously ill Israelis were fully vaccinated.
    And yet Florida which has removed virtually all mask or vaccine mandates, has America's lowest COVID rate. What gives?


    This one was interesting to watch. It's the second video on the page.
    Medical Bombshell: Pfizer Vax Attacks Human Blood Creating Clots Under Microscope

    In late 2020, before the Pfizer shot had even been rolled out, top scientists and experts around the world warned the Pfizer and Moderna shots posed an extreme risk of causing blood clots, myocarditis and other cardiovascular problems.


    One year later, Pfizer and Moderna have been forced to issue warnings confirming their controversial MRNA vaccines can indeed cause a long list of problems not just limited to the cardiovascular system.


    Now, research scientist, Dr. Richard Fleming, has tested the Covid-19 Pfizer vaccine on fresh human blood samples in vitro and made a string of nightmare discoveries confirming the medical community’s findings.


    Watch the presentation below and be sure to share it with others to help hold big pharma accountable for the damage they have done to hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.
    You can actually watch the change in red blood cells under a simple microscope in the video.

    When will the MSM start saying the Emperor has no clothes?

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    Got my flu shot a month ago and Pfizer booster two days ago. Got them at the Wegmans near me and no wait and pleasant staff. Like the earlier Pfizer jabs I got a bit achy late yesterday and overnight. Not so bad this evening. And, to be expected, some mild injection site pain.

    I told my wife that, the flu and triple COVID vax shots, I can lick the handrails in subway now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard230 View Post
    I am not due for my third shot for another month, but I did get a flu shot a couple of weeks ago. It was a drive-through clinic (in my case, it was a motorcycle push-in) at Kaiser and there were so many people lined up to get the shot that it took me an hour before I was able to get vaccinated. And it looked like they might be that busy all day long, five days a week. While there may be a relatively few people who don't want to get any sort of vaccination, I believe they get a lot more exposure in the press than they deserve. Everyone that I know is fully vaccinated and has never had a problem other than a sore shoulder for a day or two. And no one that I know first-hand (not third-hand on some forum) has ever had Covid or the flu.
    Don't do it Richard, you will become magnetized and the deep state will track your every move, stay away from Salad dressings as well, there spiking it with Maderna,,. Bill Gates will end up with your Money and your Bikes,,!!

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    You cant be too careful,,!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post

    And yet Florida which has removed virtually all mask or vaccine mandates, has America's lowest COVID rate. What gives?


    Florida is the seventh worse state for Covid-19 deaths as a percentage of population. It also has the third highest active Covid-19 numbers. It is 13th worse for daily new cases yesterday.



    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/



    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    This one was interesting to watch. It's the second video on the page.
    Medical Bombshell: Pfizer Vax Attacks Human Blood Creating Clots Under Microscope



    You can actually watch the change in red blood cells under a simple microscope in the video.

    When will the MSM start saying the Emperor has no clothes?

    Chris


    You are aware the Doctor who carried out this "research" has two convictions for medical fraud? And was barred for 10 years. He has admitted to fabricating clinical data.

    https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...ebarment-order


    Extracts


    "As Fleming admitted during his guilty plea, he received approximately $35,000 for conducting a clinical trial, but he fabricated data for certain subjects."

    "ORA stated that these convictions establish Fleming's disregard for his professional obligations and the law "

    Fleming is simply trying to sell books.
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    Don't do it Richard, you will become magnetized and the deep state will track your every move, stay away from Salad dressings as well, there spiking it with Maderna,,. Bill Gates will end up with your Money and your Bikes,,!!

    https://www.newsweek.com/michael-fly...essing-1631715

    You cant be too careful,,!!

    What has got me worried are the nano-bots that are lurking in the vaccine. I hear they take over your mind and turn you blue.
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    The truth is starting to come out regarding the vaccines. It's hard to argue against facts.

    UPDATE: 71 out of 75 Districts in Uttar Pradesh, India – Its Most Populated State – Reported No Covid-19 Cases in 24 Hours After Implementing Ivermectin Protocol
    The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government announced last month. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.” Of course, the media won’t mention that Ivermectin is being used for the treatment of COVID-19.

    This state has an estimated population of 241 million people in 2021 and has the highest population in India. This is almost two-thirds of the United States population in 2021 and yet it is now a COVID-19 free nation.


    So what could the United States be doing wrong? Let’s ask Dr. Fauci.

    Only about 20% of adults in Uttar Pradesh are fully vaccinated and only about 32 million got their second dose out of 241 million people. Uttar Pradesh has the lowest vaccine coverage as of now in all states in India.

    This one was good.

    The Evolution of Pandemic Panic Theater in One Image

    They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Well...




    And lastly...

    Waterford, Ireland Exposes Covid Vaccine as a Fraud

    What do you call a city where 99.7 percent of adults over the age of 18 (as registered in the last census) are fully vaccinated but now fighting one of the highest Covid-19 infection rate in their nation? You call it Waterford, Ireland.

    Waterford City’s south electoral area has a 14-day incidence rate of 1,486 cases per 100,000 of the population, three times the national average which stands at 493 infections per 100,000 people.
    This is a damning indictment of the validity and reliability of the Covid-19 vaccine taken by this community. A genuine vaccine is supposed to protect you against being infected by the virus the vaccine was created to stop. Tell that to the sick folk in Waterford.


    But Waterford is not alone in seeing the vaccine fail to protect those vaccinated from the ravages of the Covid virus.
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    Sometimes I just gotta shake my head.....
    Same here. I saw a woman in a car with a man (husband probably) and a dog. She was wearing a mask. He wasn't. Neither was the dog. So why did she have a mask on? For virtue signaling? Who did she think she was going to get sick from? The dog, or the man?

    If this man is her husband or boyfriend, when they get home, will she continue to wear the mask? It just makes you shake your head and wonder where common sense went.

    “It’s More A Gut Feeling Rather Than Based On Really Truly Serious Data”: FDA Panelist On Approving Moderna Boosters

    “It’s more a gut feeling rather than based on really truly serious data,” said Patrick Moore, a member of the committee and a professor of molecular genetics and biochemistry at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. “The data itself is not strong, but it is certainly going in the direction that is supportive of this vote.”

    This is what they mean when they say they “follow the science.”


    In related news, the founders of Moderna just made their debuts on Forbes’ list of the 400 richest Americans.
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    I remember a time when there was great debate as to how to keep children safe on the internet. This would be a vast unfiltered, uncensored playground, a labyrinth, a minefield, how to try to explain to them that not everything they read would be true, that some would masquerade as one thing whilst in reality be something entirely different, how to distinguish the credible from the incredible the fact from the fantasy it would be a happy hunting ground for charlatans and ne'er-do-wells hell bent on mischief or making easy money. A place were the young's lesser life experiences, their lower cognitive ability, their innocence would leave them susceptible and vulnerable. Turns out the Kids got the hang of it pretty quickly it's just some adults that struggled.
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    Here is an interesting article that was published in my newspaper today.
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    We live in interesting times. You can get info on one side of the story, and info that totally negates it on the other side of the story. Which is true? Both cannot be true logically.

    Two situations to consider.

    • Nordic countries are restricting the use of Moderna’s Covid vaccine.
      Finland's health authorities announced that men under 30 will not get the Moderna shot, and should get the Pfizer vaccine instead. Sweden banned Moderna for people under the age of 30, and Denmark did the same for people under 18. Instead of issuing a ban, Norway is urging people under 30 to choose Pfizer rather than Moderna.

      And on Friday, Iceland halted distribution of Moderna in general.


      "The Chief Epidemiologist has decided that the Moderna vaccine against Covid-19 will not be used in Iceland while further information is obtained on the safety of the vaccine during booster vaccinations," says a statement from Iceland health officials.
    • FDA Approves Pfizer’s COVID Shot For Children As Young As Five


    Then there's this:


    I wonder if there's any reason why the FDA approved the use of the Pfizer vaccines in children as young as 5.

    https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb/sta...s_nbc_cnn.html

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    The second situation is in regards to how effective the vaccines are. It's not a clear cut case of yes or no.

    Bombshell Swedish study finds covid jabs provide no lasting protection, immunity plunges to ZERO in mere months

    Like most of the other plandemic paraphernalia, the injections are not all that popular in Sweden, and for good reason. Researchers there determined that the shots are completely useless after seven months.

    Not only that, but the fake “immunity” the jabs procure actually goes negative after seven months, meaning the recipient’s immune system is worse off than prior to when they got injected.
    Again, you can't have two "truths" be true when one totally negates the other. Either the vaccines are safe and effective...or they aren't.

    I'm hoping I'm wrong about where I think things are going. But when I look at countries that have extremely high rates of vaccinations, now also have extremely high rates of COVID and now deaths, I want to believe it isn't so. But the facts and data are there. If that's true, that the "recipient's immune system is worse off than prior to when they got injected"...then we're going to see a lot of deaths this winter among vaccinated people.

    On the other hand, if the anti-vax news articles are wrong...then we'll have smooth sailing all winter. Time will tell.
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    We are now at high case numbers in the UK nearly as bad as the height of the pandemic.



    Some would argue that despite nearly 80% of over 12 being double jabbed this proves that the vaccine is ineffectual. But, unlike at the height of the pandemic, in most of the UK Covid restriction have been lifted. More importantly here is the fatality numbers.



    So we are not under restrictions, cases are bad but only a tenth of the fatalities (ONS currently shows the overwhelming majority of those to be unvaccinated). The vaccine works like all others, not a cast iron guarantee you will not get ill of die but huge reduction and a tool to help stop the pandemic.

    www.naturalnews.com which is often linked to in this thread is a well know misinformation website created by Mike Adams, he is in the habit of creating other website that will collaborate articles in naturalnews to give the impression of independent support and verification. Readers are not aware it is the same snake oil salesman.
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    The article that I posted was published by the Associated Press. I consider the AP to be a more factual and reliable source of information than random stuff found on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGD109 View Post
    www.naturalnews.com which is often linked to in this thread is a well know misinformation website created by Mike Adams, he is in the habit of creating other website that will collaborate articles in naturalnews to give the impression of independent support and verification. Readers are not aware it is the same snake oil salesman.
    Okay. Let's look at the facts and data. In the last post I made, two of the links were to Natural News.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    Then there's this:


    I wonder if there's any reason why the FDA approved the use of the Pfizer vaccines in children as young as 5.

    The second situation is in regards to how effective the vaccines are. It's not a clear cut case of yes or no.

    Bombshell Swedish study finds covid jabs provide no lasting protection, immunity plunges to ZERO in mere months
    So in the first link, the assertion is that FDA committee members have financial ties to Pfizer. I saw a chart in the last couple days that was pretty good. It showed three columns. A picture of the committee member or former committee member and whether they were currently employed by Pfizer or had moved from being a Pfizer executive to the FDA. It was a pretty damning chart.

    In the second link, the data is coming from those European governments, not being made up.

    So what does Natural News have to do with it, except that's the website that the link pointed to for the article?

    Like I said before, time will tell.
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    Kinda reminds me of a line in a Dire Straits song.
    “Two men say they’re Jesus, one of them must be wrong”
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    kinda reminds me of a line in a dire straits song.
    “two men say they’re jesus, one of them must be wrong”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post

    ........So what does Natural News have to do with it, except that's the website that the link pointed to for the article?
    Because they tell lies. I take particular umbrage with Natural News because it routinely publishes falsehoods over an issue that affects my family deeply, Mike Adams callously makes money by lying.

    It is not news that the vaccine's effectiveness reduces over time why do you think people are getting their booster jabs?

    The "article" is as valid as Shock New Finding motorcycle engine oil loses it's ability to lubricate your engine in as little as 12 months or even 3000 miles a new leaked investigation from the Monocycle Manufactures Association has shown.

    Followed of course by a myriad of comments along the lines of "I bet those idiots putting oil in their engines feel stupid now", "told you it was a ploy to keep you buying oil" blah blah

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    Like I said before, time will tell.
    And the more BS that is pedalled about the vaccines the more time it will take and the more people that will die.
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    Agree MGD, the UK has both high vaccination rates and infection rates, yet low levels of hospitalisation and falling death rates when compared to pre vaccination rates.(Source Public Health England.)

    I find it difficult to reconcile the views being peddled by some, with reality.

    I'm sure someone will pop up and try to justify it shortly.


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    I am so grateful that I live in "The Lucky Country"! This week our state, Victoria, has emerged from being under the worlds most rigorous lockdown regime to a relatively "normal" life. Our state and national borders are opening, cautiously, and infection rates, death and intensive care hospitalisation rates are receding. Why? because we have achieved high levels of full vaccination, 80% and more across the nation. All due to the heroic efforts of our health services and personnel. The advent of Delta variants through 2021 changed everything and made their task just so much tougher, but they persevered and we may be on the way back......fingers crossed.
    The perceived issue of adverse reaction to the vaccines has been addressed and quantified in a realistic and thoroughly professional and transparent manner. Take a good look at this example: https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covi...ort-14-10-2021 Real numbers assessed by real people, not weird internet trolls with deep personal issues.
    My personal situation as a high-risk individual (ancient and immunocompromised) probably colours my viewpoint but I happily admit I am scared, and thoroughly fed up with the piles of BS obscuring the "truth". Have a nice day.

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    One of our friends just came home after having a brain tumor (benign thankfully) removed.
    Her surgeon said Covid vaccinated folks were OK to visit her at home without a mask.
    Non-vaccinated folks were not to visit at all.
    He’s a brain surgeon and not a Covid specialist, but still....
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    This is damning.

    Army Surgeon Grounds Several Newly Vaccinated Pilots After They Develop Serious Chest Pain

    Following the groundings, Long said she suffered harassment. “After I reported to my command my concerns that in one morning I had to ground three out of three pilots due to vaccine injuries, the next day my patients were canceled, my charts were pulled for review, and I was told that I would not be seeing acute patients anymore, just healthy pilots there for their flight physical,” she said.

    Long’s skepticism regarding medicine and its errors prompted her in May at an Army medical leadership course to raise this question regarding COVID vaccination: “We only lost twelve active-duty soldiers to COVID, yet we’re gonna risk the health of the entire fighting force on a vaccine we only had two months of safety data on?’


    “The response was: ‘You’re d**n right, Colonel, and you’re going to get every soldier you can to take the vaccine so I can get enough data points to determine if the vaccine is safe.’”
    11 doctors seriously injured by covid injections speak out
    In his letter to numerous high-ranking public health leaders at the HHS, CDC and FDA, Siri attached signed declarations from each of the 11 vaccine-injured doctors describing in detail their various respective reactions to the shots.


    Among the side effects reported are small fiber neuropathy, constant muscle shakiness, paresthesia, tinnitus, difficult balancing, chronic fatigue, menstrual cycle irregularities, hair loss, persistent numbness and tingling in the hands, weakness and cognitive impairment.


    Siri says that each of these injuries has been confirmed as an outcome “based on the clinical judgment of the patient’s treating physician, as being caused by a Covid-19 vaccine.”


    He also noted that their respective experiences post-injection are not isolated events but rather accumulating evidence that continues to grow in opposition to the government’s claim that the shots are “safe and effective.”
    Vaccine-Injured Speak Out, Feel Abandoned by Government Who Told Them COVID Shot Was Safe

    During an event hosted Tuesday by U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), people whose lives were ruined by COVID vaccines said they feel abandoned by a government that told them it was their patriotic duty to get the shot.

    None of the major mainstream media outlets picked up the event, but Children’s Health Defense hosted Johnson’s live panel discussion on CHD.TV. Cody Flint [57.20], a 33-year-old airline pilot from Cleveland, Mississippi, was among those who spoke out about their injuries. Flint was healthy and had no underlying health conditions prior to receiving Pfizer’s COVID vaccine.

    Flint underwent numerous spinal taps and two surgeries to address the fistulas and intracranial pressure. He said he has more questions than answers, does not know if he will ever be able to fly a plane again, lost a year of his life and part of his children’s lives.


    “This vaccine has taken my career from me, and the future I have worked so hard to build,” Flint said. “I used all my savings just to pay medical bills just to be able to survive. My family is on the verge of losing everything we have.”


    Flint, who is pro-science and pro-vaccine, said the main issue rests squarely on the fact that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and NIH (National Institutes of Health) refuse to acknowledge that real lives are being absolutely destroyed by this vaccine.


    “The federal government has yet to help a single one of the vaccine-injured,” Flint said. “It was my understanding the federal government accepted the responsibility of helping people injured by vaccines, considering they gave pharmaceutical companies fully legal immunity from people like me.”


    Flint said it is time for the government to stop silencing vaccine injuries like his, and it is unconscionable for these agencies not to help.
    Time will tell.
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    All I can say is thank goodness our Vicar spends more time helping his regulars through these difficult times, either at his place or the local, rather than perpetuating unfounded lies and malicious gossip found on dubious web sites.

    To misquote Twain, why let the truth get in the way of a "good" story.

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    Elite Athlete Explains Vaccine Injury and Doctor’s Ignorance

    STORY AT-A-GLANCE

    • Kyle Warner, a 29-year-old professional mountain bike racer, developed pericarditis, POTS and reactive arthritis following his second dose of Pfizer’s COVID-19 shot
    • About two weeks after the shot, Warner experienced extremely elevated heart rates; an ER doctor refused to believe it was an adverse reaction to the jab and instead blamed it on a “psychotic episode”
    • After visiting another hospital due to more heart trouble, Warner was referred to a cardiologist who diagnosed him with pericarditis, an inflammation of the outer lining of the heart
    • For four months now, Warner has been so ill that he hasn’t been able to work or ride a bike; even mental exertion can cause him to relapse physically
    • At the Real, Not Rare rally held in Washington, D.C., Warner spoke before politicians to make a difference in the support level for vaccine-injured people — which is nonexistent in the U.S. — and voice opposition to vaccine mandates; “I believe where there is risk, there needs to be choice,” he said
    Something Really Strange Is Happening At Hospitals All Over America

    Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.
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    In addition to the above, here in the United States, 70,000 people a day, 94% of whom are unvaccinated, are contracting the Covid-19 disease, and 1,000 people a day, 97% of whom are unvaccinated, are dying. Source: https://www.media.pa.gov/pages/health-details.aspx?newsid=1595

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    Worldwide analysis of 188 nations shows a massive global correlation between vaccination and higher case rates of Covid-19, proving the world is currently experiencing a pandemic of the vaccinated.Is that true? There was a few months, about the time that article came out, that was saying the only ones in the hospitals were the unvaccinated. Real world stories proved the propaganda false. The CDC and US MSM can control most of the narrative here in the USA, but they have a harder time when data is published from other countries.

    Here's some articles that are newer and say just the opposite.

    Official Data Proves There Is A Pandemic Of The Vaccinated
    Worldwide analysis of 188 nations shows a massive global correlation between vaccination and higher case rates of Covid-19, proving the world is currently experiencing a pandemic of the vaccinated.
    COVID is a Pandemic of the vaccinated
    Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, has this week seen its highest number of coronavirus cases ever! It recorded more new Covid-19 infections on Wednesday than at the peak of its second wave. In that time, only a few were vaccinated. And if that is not bad enough, it seems that vaccines are related with a sudden increase of death of children.


    Israel depends on Pfizer for its vaccinations, it has currently a rolling average of 9,300 daily cases. Once Israel broke the vaccination records, now it breaks the record with the highest average new cases per million.


    Infection disease experts have claimed Israel proves that the effectiveness of vaccines do become less effective over time.

    PANDEMIC OF THE VACCINATED? REAL-WORLD DATA SAYS IT IS, AND IT MAY GET WORSE
    “Let’s look at some data,” Sen. Johnson said, “The type of data we are not getting from our healthcare agencies, so we have to look, unfortunately, to England and Israel, that are more transparent.


    Johnson continued, citing the official stats from Public Health England, an executive agency of the Department of Health and Social Care in England (pdf). According to its one of the latest briefings, dated September 17, 2021, that covers the number of cases for about seven-and-a-half months, there were about 750,000 new COVID cases, some 600,000 of which were attributed to the Delta strain.


    Of the 600,000 cases, 27 percent of those infected were fully vaccinated people, a third were partially vaccinated or “undetermined,” and 43 percent were unvaccinated.


    Johnson reminded the public how President Biden stated on July 21 that those who got the shot are immune from getting COVID.

    ...The narrative then changed from “getting the shot will protect you from COVID” to “getting the shot will protect you from COVID complications.” Simultaneously, the message “the government must protect the unvaccinated from the virus” (hence the CDC recommending mask for everyone) changed into “the government must protect vaccinated from unvaccinated,” as the president put it when announcing a slew of vaccine mandates.


    It remained unclear why the vaccinated people needed the government’s protection from the unvaccinated folks on top of the protection they presumably got from the “safe and “effective” and “lifesaving” vaccines. After all, the president himself claimed that “only one out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized for COVID per day.”


    Stating that “This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” Biden argued that those “80 million Americans who have failed to get the shot,” while being a “25 percent minority,” cause “a lot of damage.” It turns out, the president is yet again wrong.


    Moreover, Sen. Johnson showed, there were more vaccinated Britons who died because of COVID than their unvaccinated compatriots, 63 percent vs. 28 percent, respectively.


    “Now, this is information the American people have probably never heard,” the senator said, “This information, by conveying it, I will get attacked. I will be vilified. I will be censored. I will be suppressed.” Presumably, Johnson was referring to the YouTube’s recent announcement to ban any “misinformation” claiming that federally or internationally approved vaccines are dangerous or don’t work.
    "Moreover, Sen. Johnson showed, there were more vaccinated Britons who died because of COVID than their unvaccinated compatriots, 63 percent vs. 28 percent, respectively." That's not even close.

    He goes on to cite data from Israel that you can read for yourself.

    His last paragraph is telling. He points out the extremes the left will take to suppress the facts. "attacked" "vilified" "censored" "suppressed" "banned" from YouTube.

    And you wonder why you never hear of anything against getting vaccinated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post

    "Moreover, Sen. Johnson showed, there were more vaccinated Britons who died because of COVID than their unvaccinated compatriots, 63 percent vs. 28 percent, respectively." That's not even close.

    He goes on to cite data from Israel that you can read for yourself.

    His last paragraph is telling. He points out the extremes the left will take to suppress the facts. "attacked" "vilified" "censored" "suppressed" "banned" from YouTube.

    And you wonder why you never hear of anything against getting vaccinated?

    I looked at the data for the UK and the statement is not misinformation but simply a lie. This is not the first time you have re-printed a lie in this thread. Do the decent thing, if you are unable to find credible support for you statement post an apology.

    The numbers can be found here:-

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...4september2021

    The salient point is this:-



    When you look at the numbers also bear in mind 80% of UK adults have been vaccinated. So if the vaccine was at best ineffectual then 4 times as many vaccinated as unvaccinated would make up the fatality numbers, they don't. I challenge you Daboo not to hunt around the myriad of established misinformation websites searching for headlines but to address this lie you have re-printed.
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    As serial liars go, Senator Johnson is right up there with ex-president Trump, who according to the Washington Post told more than 20,000 lies during his four years in office.

    It defies comprehension that people who profess to be Christians are able to glorify people like Trump and Johnson. They, along with many others of the same ilk, who perpetuate these many lies, appear to lack any semblance of Christian morals.

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