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    I've just returned from a two day ride. I headed down the far south coast of New South Wales and stayed in Eden overnight. About a 1000klm round trip through some of the worst bushfire effected regions in the country. Some small towns look like a war zone, especially Mogo and Cobargo. After the recent rains the region is greening up nicely with a lot of new plant growth.

    Fantastic roads on the far south coast. Endless sweepers that go forever and being during the week, not much traffic.

    Anyway, I had a little mishap. Coming to a t-intersection and gear or two too high, I stalled the F800R, didn't get my foot down fast enough and down she went. First time she had fallen over. No damage to me but I knocked the knob off the clutch lever and bent the gear shift lever. No other damage. These didn't effect my riding at all. Taking about the F800R, fantastic on the open road, especially in sweepers where its rock steady. Just a great open road bike.

    Here's my dilemma. I'm going to replace the clutch lever but what to do with the gear lever. Do I leave it alone (adds a bit of road cred, I think), buy a new one or do I just straighten it?

    Has anyone attempted straightening alloy like gear levers? What can I expect?

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    If you try to straighten it, mentally prepare yourself to break it. You may get lucky, but Al doesn't like cold working. Also, remove it from the shaft before trying to bend it. You don't want to do any damage to the shaft or mech inside by bending the lever while installed. I know it already took an impact, but best to limit movement against the shaft as much as possible.

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    Trying to bend it cold will just about guarantee a broken lever. I would remove the lever. Remove the rubber from it. Place the lever in a vise. Heat the bent area with a propane torch. With a small pipe as a lever (tool) put a small amount of force bend it back in position. Depend more on the heat rather than the force. It may break anyway, but it's worth a try.
    Good luck
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    wack a ring spanner over the rubber pad and bend it back, if the bike can bend it you can straighten it, good luck. ebay have ones the fold that are well priced if you fail. try and see, carefully (((-;

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    any pictures of the trip? luv the eden area (((-;

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    The last time I came off the ST it bent the end back, tried to straighten it but ended up snapping it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 308bever View Post
    any pictures of the trip? luv the eden area (((-;
    I'm in the process of uploading a short video of one of stretches of road I really like. Watch this space.
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    Thanks everyone. I'll leave it alone. The bent lever doesn't effect the bike or gear changes. Next time I'm in my BMW dealer, I'll get a price for a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randyjaco View Post
    Trying to bend it cold will just about guarantee a broken lever. I would remove the lever. Remove the rubber from it. Place the lever in a vise. Heat the bent area with a propane torch. With a small pipe as a lever (tool) put a small amount of force bend it back in position. Depend more on the heat rather than the force. It may break anyway, but it's worth a try.
    Good luck
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    Randy is correct but I would add that to gauge the temperature at which you can bend alloy successfully there is a fabricators trick, take a match stick and rub the none lighting end against the alloy when it leaves a brown mark on the metal you are up to temperature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 308bever View Post
    any pictures of the trip? luv the eden area (((-;
    A video on the run between Cobargo and Bega. Nice piece of road with endless sweepers. I kept the speed down to legal limits or just above. I saw quite few highway patrol in the area.

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    Your running thru those gears like your getting paid to find them,,tack that bike out a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padaek View Post
    A video on the run between Cobargo and Bega. Nice piece of road with endless sweepers. I kept the speed down to legal limits or just above. I saw quite few highway patrol in the area.

    Looks like a nice bit of tarmac, I'm guessing that the camera is hiding how steep some of that stretch actually is.

    That Ute was going pretty well too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxerBits View Post
    Looks like a nice bit of tarmac, I'm guessing that the camera is hiding how steep some of that stretch actually is.

    That Ute was going pretty well too.



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    The guy in the ute drove like a dickhead. He changed lanes on me just as I reached the fast lane, then sped up in the slow lane. If I had overtaken him, I'd be doing around 140kph. I've seen a few highway patrol that day so I didn't want to risk it. Where the slow lane merged, he hung back a bit but I wasn't certain if he was going to cut across. One thing that pisses me off is how drivers don't merge when the slow lane ends. They change lanes as soon as they see the slow lane ending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesy rider View Post
    Your running thru those gears like your getting paid to find them,,tack that bike out a bit more.
    The video doesn't give a real indication how hilly that road is. It's up hill down dale. That's why this bit of road is so much fun. I'm only flicking between 5th and 6th gears. I won't hit 4th gear unless the corner is sign posted under 65kph.
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    I ended up with a bended gear lever (saturday, in a nearly deserted zone... fo course), I managed to change gear once, then the lever broke... approx. 200 km changeng gears without the top of it (half of them under a heavy rain...) So, be ready to have a broken lever, soon or later. By the way, the lever here didn't cost all that much, and replacing it was a few minutes job. My suggestion is buy it, then store it in the tool bag you have on the bike, just in case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by padaek View Post
    The guy in the ute drove like a dickhead. He changed lanes on me just as I reached the fast lane, then sped up in the slow lane. If I had overtaken him, I'd be doing around 140kph. I've seen a few highway patrol that day so I didn't want to risk it. Where the slow lane merged, he hung back a bit but I wasn't certain if he was going to cut across. One thing that pisses me off is how drivers don't merge when the slow lane ends. They change lanes as soon as they see the slow lane ending.
    Agree, he wasn't too kind to you.

    You've not got a monopoly on that sort however, plenty like that in UK unfortunately.

    Crawler lane etiquette over in Oz was something that initially caught me out when we there on holiday a while back. Over in UK it tends to be that lane 2 has to merge into lane 1 while in Oz it frequently was the other way round as in your video.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther View Post
    I ended up with a bended gear lever (saturday, in a nearly deserted zone... fo course), I managed to change gear once, then the lever broke... approx. 200 km changeng gears without the top of it (half of them under a heavy rain...) So, be ready to have a broken lever, soon or later. By the way, the lever here didn't cost all that much, and replacing it was a few minutes job. My suggestion is buy it, then store it in the tool bag you have on the bike, just in case...
    Thanks Gunther. I've already removed the bent lever to inspect it and put it back on the bike. It still looks in good condition so I can get by with a bent lever for a while. Next time I'm in my local BMW Motorrad dealer, I'll get a price for a new one. I'll also need to get a new clutch lever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxerBits View Post
    Agree, he wasn't too kind to you.

    You've not got a monopoly on that sort however, plenty like that in UK unfortunately.

    Crawler lane etiquette over in Oz was something that initially caught me out when we there on holiday a while back. Over in UK it tends to be that lane 2 has to merge into lane 1 while in Oz it frequently was the other way round as in your video.




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    Nigel,, many drivers here don't know how to use the overtaking lane. The main culprits seem to be city drivers who come for a run through country roads. The local 'country' drivers are okay because they use these types of roads all the time. You can always tell city drivers. They are the ones who apply the brakes downhill or when they just go over the 100kph speed limit. I 'spose they aren't used to highway speeds.

    I was talking to a local in one of the small towns I visited. Also a motorcyclist. He told me the local highway patrol copper is pretty good. He allows up to 5-10kph over the speed limit at highway speeds before he acts. Around town he's a bit stricter. I came over a hill at about 105-110kph and met him head on. I thought I was a gorna and kept an eye on my mirrors. He just kept going. For those who know the area, it was in those glorious sweepers between Bega and Cobargo, around Brogo.
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    Jurgen, just read your trip south. Sorry to hear you dropped the bike.
    I replaced the gear lever with this https://www.motorradgarage.com.au/ge...-09-f800gt-13-
    Thankfully I haven't dropped mine but as I'm a shorty when ever there is an unexpected stop, I've had a few close calls.
    Great video !!
    Agree with your comments re road users.
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    Yogi, you could try Frank Nieuwenhuis on 0437369642 or www.usedmotorcyclepartsonline.com.au ,for S/H bits. He has plenty of ST and GT parts. Dunno about R, but are they all the same lever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM View Post
    Jurgen, just read your trip south. Sorry to hear you dropped the bike.
    I replaced the gear lever with this https://www.motorradgarage.com.au/ge...-09-f800gt-13-
    Thankfully I haven't dropped mine but as I'm a shorty when ever there is an unexpected stop, I've had a few close calls.
    Great video !!
    Agree with your comments re road users.
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    Whoa,, that's a pricey gear lever, Dom.
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    Whoa,, that's a pricey gear lever, Dom.

    Yes it is Jurgen. BUT It allows some adjustment AND I'm going to spend it while I can !!!!!

    After seeing a few ride videos, I'm now thinking of buying an action camera.
    Looking at the GoPro brand.
    Any suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM View Post
    Whoa,, that's a pricey gear lever, Dom.

    Yes it is Jurgen. BUT It allows some adjustment AND I'm going to spend it while I can !!!!!

    After seeing a few ride videos, I'm now thinking of buying an action camera.
    Looking at the GoPro brand.
    Any suggestions.
    I've got an earlier model Gopro, Dom. Not too bad. It doesn't have image stabilisation which is important for motorcycle videos. It has great image quality though.

    I'm looking to up date and ordered a Campark V30. Cost less than a quarter of a Gopro. Great specifications and uses a Sony sensor. About 100 bucks off Ebay. It'll be here later this week or early next week. I'll let you know.

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    Thanks for the info, Jurgen.
    BOM says Sunny on Friday and I will be free. Can meet where ever you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM View Post
    Thanks for the info, Jurgen.
    BOM says Sunny on Friday and I will be free. Can meet where ever you say.
    Okay,, sounds good. Berry is a good halfway point for us both. What about Jetz Cafe Berry at around 10am? It's in the main drag almost diagonally opposite the main pub. If you're coming from the south, it'll be on your right hand side just after the pub intersection.

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    Jurgen,
    The other replies give you the info, so I will give you my wisdom ( ha!!!)

    Your small fall was the classic event that has ended or severely delayed many a beautiful plan. I have already bought spare levers from eBay as soon as I bought my bike and carry them everywhere. I now will go online and buy a spare gear lever - thank you.(I also have a spare clutch cable under the seat.)

    My risk averse brain would have me replace the bent gear lever and keep it as a spare in case this ever happens again. It is obviously working and there seems to be a good chance it will break if you try to bend it back (unless you can try the heating method)

    I am envious of your recent ride - I haven't been on a long ride with the F800GT for quite some time. Hoping to make MotoGP in October.

    I am currently doing all my riding on a Suzuki DR650 ( the classic bush pig - ugliest bike Ive owned) in preparation for a ride to The Tip in Cape York in June. As a veteran back-top rider, this has been one eye-opening experience. Hell its hard to get confidence on the dirt at my age!! I feel like I am going to die about a dozen times on each training ride!!

    I have performed all the usual mods for this cheap little beast and I must say, it really feels and sounds like you are riding a strong, thumping single cylinder motorcycle - grrreat!! Plus I get to play with carburettors and settings etc - stuff I haven't done since I was a young man trying to keep my 1969 Triumph Daytona going long enough to get to Bathurst Easter bikes races and back - ahh this has been fun. Cheers, Mike

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    Where will you guys be riding to?? I am in Sydney and also have Friday off, (but with some caveats), Thanks, Mike

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    Last time I came off on a bend and bent my gear lever my mates just pulled it straight so I could get going again.
    But if you can, I think it would be best to leave it in the hot sun for a few hours to gently warm it before straightening it, to prevent stress fractures.

    I say this because I once bent a stub axle on my tractor and when I took it to the machine shop they threw it outside in the sun for half a day then straightened it in the press. That was a steel axle, I don't know if alloy would be as susceptible but it'd be worth a try.

    Note: they didn't warm it with a gas bottle or a candle, just the sun. You want it to warm up very slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikecummin View Post
    Where will you guys be riding to?? I am in Sydney and also have Friday off, (but with some caveats), Thanks, Mike
    Mike,, we are meeting at Berry for a coffee. Dom is coming up from Jervis Bay, I'm heading down from Shellharbour. We've been trying to catch up for a while now. Please join us.

    I regularly head down to Berry via Gerringong and Gerroa just for a coffee. It's a nice ride.
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    Jurgen,
    The other replies give you the info, so I will give you my wisdom ( ha!!!)

    Your small fall was the classic event that has ended or severely delayed many a beautiful plan. I have already bought spare levers from eBay as soon as I bought my bike and carry them everywhere. I now will go online and buy a spare gear lever - thank you.(I also have a spare clutch cable under the seat.)

    My risk averse brain would have me replace the bent gear lever and keep it as a spare in case this ever happens again. It is obviously working and there seems to be a good chance it will break if you try to bend it back (unless you can try the heating method)
    Mike,, I ordered a new gear lever yesterday. Not cheap but my OCD self told me to. I'll keep the bent one as a spare.

    I know all about spare clutch cables. This comes from having owned a couple of Guzzi Le Mans. My MkV was especially heavy on clutch cables. On long rides, I'd have a clutch cable already in place ready to connect. I could change a clutch cable in ten minutes on my Le Mans.
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    Ouch, $185 for a new lever, or $150 for a folding one.

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    Great video Jurgen, I have seen the local BMW dealer straighten a bent gear lever for a F800 by 'heating it' a couple of years ago.
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    The Campark unit looks like enormous bangferyerbuck Yogi! Of course I upgraded my Gopro with another .... better, but still not perfect and expensive. Look forward to your results!

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