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    Just bought a 2014 F800 GT and need new tires. Any recommendations?

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    Michelin Road 5. Best all around tire on the market. Certainly the best in the rain and cold, and probably the highest mileage you'll get from a tire on that bike. Yes there are better high performance tires available, but if you aren't a track day kind of person, the Michelin Road 5 is the way to go.

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    Two friends hated their Road 5 tires. Got 75% of tread life they were used to getting from PR4.

    Bridgestone T30 and T31 are very good tires. Pirelli Angel GT. Dunlop Roadsmart 3.
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    Pretty much no wrong answer with current name brand tires. My 2013 has done well with BT023, T30 and T31 Bridgestone. Ran one set of pilot road 4 and they were just as good, just switched back to what I was familiar with.

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    There's a 2020 review of sport-touring tyres by a British publication. They rated the Michelin Road 5 as next to the bottom with the Metzeler Roadtec 01 at the top. There's really no bad answer among the top tires. I like how the Continental RoadAttack III warms up immediately. It's confidence inspiring in corners. But I've also used the Metzeler, and Dunlop Roadsmart III tires. All were good.

    The biggest difference you'll find is price. On a normal year, you'll find rebates that can make a large difference in prices.

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    a lot depends on the type of riding you do - i went with Pilot Powers - i'm a spring to fall, no-rain rider, so wet traction was not on my need list - i also don't put more than a couple thousand miles on a season, so wear was not an issue - i just go for handling/stickiness -

    in the end i probably saved a couple hundred bucks that i could spend on something else -
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    I just put new tires on my '18 GT. It came with Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT tires, and they still had a lot of tread after 6,000 miles, but were starting to "square off" a bit, so I had them changed at the 6,000 mile service...with another set of Pilot Road 4 GT tires. No complaints...an excellent tire that has good feel and corners beautifully.

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    Metzeler Roadtec01, I've over 8000 miles on rear and it looks almost new, slightly squared but loads of tread left

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    I have been happy with Dunlop Roadsmart III tires on my R1200RS. They are relatively inexpensive, handle well and seem to last as long, if not longer, than any other sport touring tire that I have tried.
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    I was surprised at the tire review results I saw earlier. They rated the Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE as the top tire. That wasn't my experience...but then I found the tire has been updated to the "SE" for 2020. Hmmm...so now do I try them again? Or just stick with the Continental RoadAttack IIIs that I like so well?


    BTW. I tried to find the post on the other forum. It looks like it might've been deleted because it was probably a copyrighted article posted as PDF files.

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    Thanks everyone!

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    Metzeler For me long life handles great,

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    My OEM rear tire was worn out at 8,000 miles, I replaced it with a Michelin Road 5 last summer and then the front over the winter. I have 8,000 miles on the rear and it still has not reached the tread wear markers and will likely go another 2,000 miles for me if I ride sensibly. It has been my experience that a weekend of spirited riding in the mountains in hot weather can scrub a lot of tread off when a tire and I will likely need to replace the tire before my week long trip of riding double up in Arkansas next month.

    I am well satisfied that the Road 5 has done everything really well. Thankfully I have been able to avoid testing it in the wet over the last year, and I feel that even with my "sporty" riding style I have never leaned the bike over far enough to test the traction limits. There was one corner I came in pretty hot and discovered the turn was very tight and off camber, and the tires stuck like glue as I adjusted my line and shot around the corner at a pace a bit unnerving for me!

    I really think the Road 5 does everything very well. It has worn very evenly across the tread and has a bit more wear in the center from trips down the interstate and the 20% use riding with my wife on the back - I don't ride nearly hard and fast enough to wear the softer compound tread off the sides. Out of curiosity I am going to put on a Continental Road Attack III for the next tire - however I do expect it will get a bit less mileage than the Road 5.

    As stated previously - it is hard to find a modern sport touring tire that behaves badly.

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    Go with any name-brand tire with the proper fitment and you’ll be fine. It’s not worth obsessing over. I’ve had good success with T30’s, PR4’s, MEZ8’s, and Roadsmarts. Doubt you’ll be able to tell the difference between them on a bike as light and docile as an F800.
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    One thing maybe worth mentioning in all this tire talk. We all reference our mileage from a set of tires, right! If you are changing tires when they are down to the wear bars, just be careful. I change my own tires and some brands leave a little more carcass than others at that point. I've seen Pirelli tires be super, super thin, especially sport/track tires. I run mostly one brand of tire and from changing multiple sets, I know how far I dare get into the wear bar. The next time you have tires changed, ask the shop to let you poke your finger in the center of you old set. You might be surprised how thin and soft it is and how easily it could get cut or punctured. This knowledge might improve your riding safety.

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    So true. I was up in the mountains trying to get the tire sides worn as much as the center after a long trip. I got a flat from a little rock due to the chip seal that was being applied.
    Wear bars are indicators for replacement, not yellow lights warning you to think about it.

    As far as what are good tires? Even Shinko 712 can give good service. If you are not a racer boy and demand the bike perform as though your were on a race track You don't need the high priced stuff. I'm a couple minutes slower than my riding friends but they seldom have time for a nap waiting for me to catch up. They blow through performance tires that are pricey, I coast through my Shinko's. Actually the tires are more than capable I've dragged pegs before, it my skill set that is wanting.

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    Metzeler Roadtec01, I've over 8000 miles on rear and it looks almost new, slightly squared but loads of tread left
    What's your secret? I have the same tire with same mileage and mine is ready for replacement. I do ride 2up mostly, so maybe that is the answer.

    And Daboo mentioned the SE version is now available, but I haven't been able to find it in stock anywhere yet, just the "regular" version.

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    What's your secret? I have the same tire with same mileage and mine is ready for replacement. I do ride 2up mostly, so maybe that is the answer.
    The "secret" I've found, seems to be where you live and the roads in that area. On another bike, I was getting 14,000 miles on my tires while others living in Texas were only getting half that. Well, our temperatures in Seattle are not nearly as high as those in Texas, and our roads have a lot of rounded pebbles in them, not sharp edged rocks. I'm sure it makes a difference.

    Regarding the Metzeler Roadtec 01 and the SE version, my first tires after the OEM Z8's were the Roadtec 01s. The handling seemed great. I hit some drenching downpours for hours on end on my post-retirement ride and they did great. But then on about a 9 day break between that post-retirement ride and a trip to South Dakota, I rode over to Cycle Gear. And just happened to look at the rear tire.

    The rear tire was clean and black...except the center inch. Now maybe I panicked for no good reason at all, but we'd just had some pictures posted of how Metzeler tires wore particularly in the center like that, and how the tires went from looking good to being worn through to the cords in no time at all. I had the trip to Spearfish, SD coming up and I was worried now about having enough tread to make it home. I ended up buying Dunlop RS III tires in Rapid City and by that [email protected] miles...the Metzeler Roadtec 01 tires looked worn down close to the tread wear indicators.

    Metzeler had stated the correct tire fitment for the F800GT was the HWM for Heavy Weight Motorcycles on the rear and I had the regular version on that first try. The second time I tried them last fall, I went with the HWM version. I got 7500 miles on those and changed them a couple thousand miles early because of the trip to the Badlands. When I commuted daily to work, max tire life was important. Now I'm coming to realize that it makes little difference if my tire will get me 10,000 miles or 11,000 miles if it'll not get me through the next trip.

    The Metzeler Z8 OEM tires lasted 11,000 miles. The Roadtec 01s were supposed to be even better...but weren't. I suspect the SE version came about to fix that.

    So will they sucker me away from the Continental RA III or Dunlop RS III tires for the third time? Hmmm....

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    Some observations: (You can of course make your own... )
    • I didn't see any rebates this time around. I think the earlier rebates were simply what the manufacturers already had in the system, and now with the coronavirus hurting profits, the prices are what that are. Hopefully, next year will be better in both respects.
    • From the Dunlop to the rest of the tires down to the Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE, IMHO they are all the same regarding performance. Or close enough for the majority of us. The differences now are more in regards to the discussions we used to have when I was growing up. Which is better? Ford or Chevy. And then someone would say Dodge was.
    • The price differences are where you need to decide if that perceived difference in handling, ride, longevity, etc. is worth the cost. There's not that much difference in cost between a Dunlop RS3 and the Conti RA3...$22. But is the Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE worth the $135 premium over the Dunlop RS3? Not in my opinion.
    • I find it interesting to look at the Owner Ratings. I trust the Owner Ratings more than I trust a magazine review that may be biased by advertising revenue. The top two rated tires are the older Pirelli Angel GT and the Conti RA3, followed closely by the older Metzeler and Michelin Road 5. The newer Pirelli is significantly lower in rating than the older one. And while the newer Metzeler is unrated, unless it can reverse hair loss, it costs far too much to even consider.


    I hope this helps your decisions.

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    Both Bridgestone https://www.bridgestonerewards.com/FindRewards and
    Michelin https://two-wheel.tirerewardcenter.com/ currently offer rebates

    I will be fitting Road 5’s soon; replacing the Conti RA 3.

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    It looks like the Bridgestone rebate was $40...right? How much is the Michelin rebate?

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    Yeah, they make it hard to find the details. I had to log-in. Revzilla has a clearer page: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...t-road-5-tires

    $25 Visa® Reward Card valid on combined purchases totaling $80.00 to $274.99 of the above eligible tires. $60 Visa® Reward Card valid on combined purchases totaling $275.00 to $599.99 of the above eligible tires. $100 Visa® Reward Card valid on combined purchases totaling $600.00 to $999.99 of the above eligible tires. $150 Visa® Reward Card valid on combined purchases totaling $1,000.00 or more of the above eligible tires.

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    So...decisions, decisions. I know I'll need tires before the Fall. Which do I get?

    NOTE: Some of those rebates expire in 9 days or the end of the month. So if you think you'll be like me and want tires this fall...buy them now and put them in the garage till later.

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    Big thanks to Daboo for posting up the chart. Something to think about. Seems like I'm always getting 6,000 miles out of a set I buy tires and go on a long trip of 6,000 miles. When it come time for the next long trip have to replace at least the rear so as not to run the risk of running out of rubber 1,000 miles from home. Currently have a two rears, one on the bike with 6,000 miles and the other with about 4,000 miles. Last couple of years I have been buying 2 rears and 1 front per year. Hoping to get out late this month, after Sturgis crowd clears out, for another longish trip. With the virus will have to see what is open. Last I looked Kansas had some restrictions but not sure if I'm riding thru the state and only stopping for gas if it matters. Guess I'm going to go ahead and pick up a set of Road 5s and get the $60 rebate. Ive wanted to try some of the other tires but keep going back to what I know. For me the Road 5 has been a great tire in the heat running interstate speeds at 100F and also providing good traction in the rain in the 30s (F).

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    Interesting...both Revzilla and Cycle Gear are out of the Michelin PR4. It would be interesting to see how it would be on the GT. On my Honda NT700V, I had 17K on the tires and it looked like they would last another 2K.

    The Michelin Road 5 looks like a "good deal", but longevity is a criticism of some owners.

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    Wow, Lots of good info, thanks for posting.

    The Roadtec was advertised as providing 20% more life than the Z8. I didn't see those results, as my mileage for both tires is almost identical. And the price of the 01 SE will keep me looking at other tires.

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    I actually got far less mileage on the Roadtec 01 than on the OEM Z8.

    I thought about it last night, and I'll probably stick with the Continental RA3 for the next tires. They warm up immediately, which can be a factor in the cold wet Puget Sound winter. While the Michelin Road 5 with rebate comes out a few $ less, between the two tires, I'd still prefer the Continental. I just wish the tires had a rebate.

    FWIW, Continental offers free roadside service for their tires for 2 or 3 years. (You do have to register them.) In the case of a car, they'd put your spare on for you. In the case of a motorcycle, they'll tow you.

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    Any thoughts on why there seems to be a bit more wear on the left side of your rear tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tstover View Post
    Wow, Lots of good info, thanks for posting.

    The Roadtec was advertised as providing 20% more life than the Z8. I didn't see those results, as my mileage for both tires is almost identical. And the price of the 01 SE will keep me looking at other tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    Interesting...both Revzilla and Cycle Gear are out of the Michelin PR4. It would be interesting to see how it would be on the GT. On my Honda NT700V, I had 17K on the tires and it looked like they would last another 2K.

    The Michelin Road 5 looks like a "good deal", but longevity is a criticism of some owners.

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    Have you taken a look at https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/t...013-bmw-f800gt
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    Doubt you’ll be able to tell the difference between them on a bike as light and docile as an F800.
    I had no issues w/ PR4GT nor Metz Z8 on my F800GT. But PR4GT on my '16 RT was not a good thing due to howling in turns as the miles were in the last 20% of wear, and they cupped severely in under 2K miles at recommended psi. Overinflating them to 39-40psi helped. Conti RA3GT has been perfection for RTW, at least compared to PR4GT, Angel GT, and Z8. It seems to have no flaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    The "secret" I've found, seems to be where you live and the roads in that area. On another bike, I was getting 14,000 miles on my tires while others living in Texas were only getting half that. Well, our temperatures in Seattle are not nearly as high as those in Texas, and our roads have a lot of rounded pebbles in them, not sharp edged rocks. I'm sure it makes a difference.

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    I do agree that believe the pavement surface has a big influence on wear..........and riding style affects the tire mileage as well.

    The pavement surface where I live in KY is all "blacktop"and applied with a paver, the aggregate is crushed limestone/sand mix and the surface is very smooth. The wear caused by this pavement is a bit more rapid than asphalt that has round river gravel and is pretty gentle on tires.

    The worst pavement for tire wear are the roads that are "chip seal" or "tar and chip" where the stone aggregate is glued down to the pavement with asphalt and the stones don't have the fine sand aggregate filing in the voids. These pavements have very sharp aggregate edges and it provides lots of traction and the sharp edges eat away at the tire tread. The area where I grew up used "slag" from the steel mills for the aggregate and it was very rough!

    I don't have much experience with riding on concrete pavements, as those are not common where I live. There was one instance where I was in my car and driving on a concrete pavement that had grooves sawed into the surface, and I was going about 50 mph and I had to apply the brakes really hard. My car does not have ABS and my front tires locked up for a brief period before I could back off the pedal pressure a little - that rough concrete was like a "cheese grater" and it put huge flat spots in my tires! Thankfully the tires were nearly worn out and ready to be replaced and I didn't ruin a good set of tires.

    My riding style affects my tire life, as I corner in a very "festive" manner and although I back the cornering speed down when riding double.......I still ride fast enough to make the ride fun. When we were riding in Arkansas last year we stopped at Mount Magazine to take in the view, and there was a Gold Wing and a Harley parked at the same viewing area. I looked at their tires and the rubber surface was smooth and shiny all across the tire - while my tires were "scuffed up" across the tread and I had rubber and brake dust all over my back wheel.

    A few weeks ago I rode with a group of fellows that had big V-twins and we rode about 200 miles around our local roads. They went around corners very slowly, never once passed a slower car and would ride for miles behind the car going 10 mph under the speed limit - if I rode like that all the time I am sure I could make my tires last a lot longer! It is not the way I ride however, and I just have to accept that I will get 8-10K out of my tires......and I will likely never get 12-14K out of a tire!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpin View Post
    The worst pavement for tire wear are the roads that are "chip seal" or "tar and chip" where the stone aggregate is glued down to the pavement with asphalt and the stones don't have the fine sand aggregate filing in the voids. These pavements have very sharp aggregate edges and it provides lots of traction and the sharp edges eat away at the tire tread.
    Unfortunately I don't think there is riding gear available that will save your hide if you found yourself trying to slide on that type of surface in a crash scenario. Even full thickness leather would shred I'm sure!

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    I stuck with the stock Metzeler Interact Z8's for the almost 40,000 miles I had my 2016 F800GT ~ 15,000 or so miles on front tire and 11,000 or so miles on a rear tire and I think reasonably priced - and unexpectedly, there are the exact same tires - size and everything - on my new 2020 R1250RT - so I'll get to see how they do there too

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    I've had great results with Conti Trail Attack's - they're up to gen III now. They're a 90-10 tire and give me a little more confidence when dealing with dirt/gravel.

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    I just replaced my Metzlers with Michelin R5. Remarkable improvement. Quite happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwarren17% View Post
    Just bought a 2014 F800 GT and need new tires. Any recommendations?
    Like lots of other I have had experiences with Road Pilots (3 and 4) Roadtec 8s and currently Roadtec 01s.

    Pilots were great until I rode though our "Alps" (this is Australia) on my way to Phillip Island. It was cruelly cold and wet and starting to sleet. Even without sleet, I found the extra cold temperature completely changed the tyre and I felt the front move on many slow corners - I just lost all confidence and felt I was going to lose the front that whole mountain ride.

    Original Roadtec 8s on the F800GT were finally replaced with Roadtec01 last year. I have done a couple of track training days (not completely flat out all the time) on the 08 and they felt great. I rode to Phillip Island through heat, rain and cold ( it is Victoria you know) and was so comfortable (even when I noticed the traction control light came on indicating I might have just been lucky boy). Steering was so accurate and the front planted.

    Not sure about longevity but I don't ride heavy, I'm about 83kg, don't take huge volumes of gear when touring, I do use the recommended tyre pressures (they are quite high) and I avoid long freeway stretches, so I am using a lot of the tyre rather than just the middle. I dont commute as I need the F800GT to last for a long time - I just love it.

    As everyone says - most modern tyres are good and it often comes down to where you ride (temperature, rain etc), weight and tyre pressures.

    Good Luck.

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    First question is how you plan to ride. If you want to include off-road travel, decide if you want a 50/50 tire or 70/30, etc. Knobbies wear faster on the street, but you'll want some degree of knobs if you are going off-road.

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    DUNLOP SPORTMAX ROADSMART IV FIRST LOOK (8 FAST FACTS)
    https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/202...-8-fast-facts/

    Well, if you thought motorcycle tires were expensive, guess what. They are about to get even pricier.

    The Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE is over $100 more than the plain jane Metzeler Roadtec 01. Now Dunlop appears to be following the same strategy. You can still get the Roadsmart III for $305 (before rebate), but the article above says the pricing for the Roadsmart IV will be $421. Cough...cough...gasp

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwarren17% View Post
    Just bought a 2014 F800 GT and need new tires. Any recommendations?
    Here is a link to motorcycle news UK tyre test from this week.

    https://www.motorcyclenews.com/advic...touring-tyres/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    DUNLOP SPORTMAX ROADSMART IV FIRST LOOK (8 FAST FACTS)
    https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/202...-8-fast-facts/

    Well, if you thought motorcycle tires were expensive, guess what. They are about to get even pricier.

    The Metzeler Roadtec 01 SE is over $100 more than the plain jane Metzeler Roadtec 01. Now Dunlop appears to be following the same strategy. You can still get the Roadsmart III for $305 (before rebate), but the article above says the pricing for the Roadsmart IV will be $421. Cough...cough...gasp

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    Agreed. The RS3s were good enough that I used them two or three times now. I tried the Metzeler Roadtec 01 and felt like I was sold a bill of goods. Yes, they had good traction in the wet. But as far as the claims of longer life than the Z8s...they were far far less. So there's no way I'm willing to take that chance with the "SE" version.

    The Dunlop RS3 on rebate is one of the best deals you can get on a tire for the F800GT/ST.

    I've been hoping to see a rebate on the Continental Roadattack 3. No such luck. I'll probably pay full price for them when these wear out, just because I like them so much. They are a confidence inspiring tire. Warm up immediately and have grip out to the edges. Mine last year had no "chicken strips" and after riding the Maryhill Loops Road several times, they actually were shredded some on the sides. So far, they have 6000 miles and look barely worn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daboo View Post
    Agreed. The RS3s were good enough that I used them two or three times now. I tried the Metzeler Roadtec 01 and felt like I was sold a bill of goods. Yes, they had good traction in the wet. But as far as the claims of longer life than the Z8s...they were far far less. So there's no way I'm willing to take that chance with the "SE" version.

    The Dunlop RS3 on rebate is one of the best deals you can get on a tire for the F800GT/ST.

    I've been hoping to see a rebate on the Continental Roadattack 3. No such luck. I'll probably pay full price for them when these wear out, just because I like them so much. They are a confidence inspiring tire. Warm up immediately and have grip out to the edges. Mine last year had no "chicken strips" and after riding the Maryhill Loops Road several times, they actually were shredded some on the sides. So far, they have 6000 miles and look barely worn.

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    Wish I would have seen this post 2 days ago, before I ordered another Roadtec 01. 6K miles and not much wear, I’m in!

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