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    Nice! Pop a picture up of this brew once it's conditioned!

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    In the lighter moments of World War II, the Spitfire was used in an unorthodox role: bringing beer kegs to the men in Normandy.

    During the war, the Heneger and Constable brewery donated free beer to the troops. After D-Day, supplying the invasion troops in Normandy with vital supplies was already a challenge. Obviously, there was no room in the logistics chain for such luxuries as beer or other types of refreshments. Some men, often called sourcers, were able to get wine or other niceties from the land or rather from the locals. RAF Spitfire pilots came up with an even better idea.

    The Spitfire Mk IX was an evolved version of the Spitfire, with pylons under the wings for bombs or tanks. It was discovered that the bomb pylons could also be modified to carry beer kegs. According to pictures that can be found, various sizes of kegs were used. Whether the kegs could be jettisoned in case of emergency is unknown. If the Spitfire flew high enough, the cold air at altitude would even refresh the beer, making it ready for consumption upon arrival.

    A variation of this was a long range fuel tank modified to carry beer instead of fuel. The modification even received the official designation Mod. XXX. Propaganda services were quick to pick up on this, which probably explains the official designation.

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    A staged shot of the Mod. XXX tank being filled.

    As a result, Spitfires equipped with Mod XXX or keg-carrying pylons were often sent back to Great-Britain for maintenance or liaison duties. They would then return to Normandy with full beer kegs fitted under the wings.

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    The Spitfire had very little ground clearance with the larger beer kegs.

    Typically, the British Revenue of Ministry and Excise stepped in, notifying the brewery that they were in violation of the law by exporting beer without paying the relevant taxes. (Sender's Note: Damned Revenuers!!! Leave it to government civilians to figure out a way to harrass the fighting troops!!!) It seems that Mod. XXX was terminated then, but various squadrons found different ways to refurbish their stocks. Most often, this was done with the unofficial approval of higher echelons.

    In his book Dancing in the Skies, Tony Jonsson, the only Icelancer pilot in the RAF, recalled beer runs while he was flying with 65 Squadron. Every week a pilot was sent back to the UK to fill some cleaned-up drop tanks with beer and return to the squadron. Jonsson hated the beer runs as every man on the squadron would be watching you upon arrival. Anyone who made a rough landing and dropped the tanks would be the most hated man on the squadron for an entire week.

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    Never heard of it! Is this true? Is it a fake?
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    It's so absurd it's probably true, I Googled beer keg carrying Spitfires, it appears it could be true! The Americans did the same in the 50s it seems when they couldn't get Coors as it was only available in Coralardo.
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    After one month of bottle conditioning, I tasted my hop bomb
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    At least, yesterday evening in a pub in the city centre, I found this one:
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    I'm imbibing this particular brew. It's a blond Flanders beer brewed in Armentieres near Ypres, lovely taste, only drawback it's 8% - not the type of beer to go on the piss
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    I must be pissed already - can't get rid of the second picture, you'll have to grin and bear it - sorry.
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    There are two pictures? Sorry I was already pissed....
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    Good job Terry. Now we're all pissed!

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    Yesterday afternoon, in one of the first nice weather days, in a pub near the sea, I found this:
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    a good Gose style beer, strange enough, from Malta, instead of Lipsia
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    Isn't that the sour stuff??

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    It's more salty then sour, sometimes has a hint (or an evident) sulfur taste, due to the water, I presume

    If you want to try the original one, look for "Ritterguts Gose"
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    I'm afraid to try it. I had a Flanders ale once and it was sour. I almost puked. A sulfur taste like a rotten egg or a burnt match? I may give one bottle a try some day if I get the courage up. It tends to be pricey around here as well.

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    Just a little sulfur, but more salty, and as for the price, the same as the others beers, here, except for the real sour ales from BelgiumClick image for larger version.

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    I doubt we get that Ritterguts here, but if I see it I'll give it a whirl.

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    Have a look
    http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf
    Historical Beer: GoseOverall Impression: A highly-carbonated, tart and fruitywheat ale with a restrained coriander and salt character andlow bitterness. Very refreshing, with bright flavors and highattenuation.
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    Hey Philip, have you tried your limoncino?
    Out of topic; today a collegue of mine has found a newspaper article that linked to another article on the NY Times about my city
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/t...nice.html?_r=0
    It seems has got (gotten?) the proper soul of this place, understatement (or tragic calm )
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    I used the recipe to make Limoncino a while back and made a batch of it. You reminded me that I still had some untouched in a bottle so I took a dram or two. Not too shabby but, I have had some that was better.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther View Post
    Hey Philip, have you tried your limoncino?
    Out of topic; today a collegue of mine has found a newspaper article that linked to another article on the NY Times about my city
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/t...nice.html?_r=0
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    I have a case of ABK EDEL that my son gave me and I am in the process of making it disappear. Being 40% French / German I kind of go for this type of stuff.
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    How does that math work out? 40% french german? Isn't that 20% of each? One-fifth? You only had 4 grandparents. Or did you??

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    Had a DNA test done and it is interesting. You have remember the history of Europe over the centuries. The French / German means they share similar genes. My great ,great grandfather came from Priesen-Damstadt, Germany in the early 1800s. Darmstadt is close to France. Borders change and people mix. The balance of the tests show the majority of the DNA come from Northwestern Europe with about 1% Native American. There is more but, this is not the place to go into detail. My wife did it and she is 53% English / Irish and 11% French /German. Also, she has more Neanderthal then 93% of the population taking these tests. I am in the middle with 51% having more then me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarless View Post
    Cristoforo Colombo would be proud Gunther
    Maybe,but not about the immobilism (can you say so?) in this place, not a place for tourists, not a place for industry, no "country for young men".
    Good things we have are food, weather, culture/history/monuments/ and roads
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    @Philip
    What's the meaning of having "more Neanderthal" in you? What does this cause?
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    Nothing. The tests go back to millions of year ago. My wife has Iberian ancestors so this may have added to the Neanderthal. Most Europeans have some Neandertal and at the most, it is a very tiny part of the DNA but, it is there just the same.

    Here is a sample of the report...

    For many years, scientists were limited to scraping together clues from fragments of bones and other materials to discover who we are and where we come from. New techniques have allowed scientists to look even closer at DNAhidden within those bones. While the full picture of our past is still emerging, it is clear that as early as 50,000 years ago there were at least three different types of humans. Although only one of these groups (so-called "anatomically-modern humans") survived, we now know that they interbred with the other groups, including Neanderthals, along the way.
    23andMe customers with Neanderthal variants have a direct Neanderthal ancestor—a grandparent to the 250th degree. What that means is still uncertain, but it's fascinating to think that we may have inherited some of our traits and behaviors from them.
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    Philip Schey

    100%


    European99.9%


    Northwestern European94.4%

    French & German40.0%

    British & Irish18.2%

    Scandinavian3.1%

    Broadly Northwestern European33.1%

    Southern European4.2%

    Balkan1.2%

    Italian0.7%

    Broadly Southern European2.3%

    Ashkenazi Jewish< 0.1%

    Broadly European1.2%


    East Asian & Native American0.1%


    East Asian< 0.1%

    Mongolian< 0.1%

    Broadly East Asian & Native American< 0.1%


    Sub-Saharan African< 0.1%


    Central & South African< 0.1%



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    And there you have it....
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    That's really interesting, I didn't even know that something like that was possible
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    I'm just wondering where my ancestors came from, 2 of my grandparents came from Sardinia (and some areas got invaded several times by semitic people, then phoenicians, romans, aragonese, pirates from north Africa, germans...).
    The other 2 came from south Tirol, just on the border between Italy and Austria, and that's a region surrounded by high mountains, with only few passes which allowed people moving in and out of these valleys, so those places have remained relatively "genetically" more uniform, even though they got invaded by romans, german speaking populations during middle ages, french army (napoleonic period) and italians, after the 1st world war.
    I think I'm something like a stray dog, sort of
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    What's the meaning of having "more Neanderthal" in you? What does this cause?
    It was a cold dark night... there Phil was.. there I was... oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther View Post
    I'm just wondering where my ancestors came from, 2 of my grandparents came from Sardinia (and some areas got invaded several times by semitic people, then phoenicians, romans, aragonese, pirates from north Africa, germans...).
    The other 2 came from south Tirol, just on the border between Italy and Austria, and that's a region surrounded by high mountains, with only few passes which allowed people moving in and out of these valleys, so those places have remained relatively "genetically" more uniform, even though they got invaded by romans, german speaking populations during middle ages, french army (napoleonic period) and italians, after the 1st world war.
    I think I'm something like a stray dog, sort of
    I'm Neoplitan/Iscian on my Father's side and my grandmother looked Arabic as I think Phoenicians raped and pillaged Iscia a while back. We are extremely dark on that side (father's). Darker than most dark Italians. Almost like like people from southern India.

    My mothers father was full-blooded Cherokkee from the smokies, and we're unsure of what her mother was but my mother bares my grandmother's family name (grandparents died young and her grandparents took her in. ) which is a Cornish name. That makes sense as that part of west viriginia had allot of coal miners come over from Cornwall and Wales england. I'm guess I'm at least 4 things: italian, mideastern, native american and english.

    I have the DNA test like you got Phil but I'm afraid to take it as they say they notify any matches out there. I'm a little afraid there may be some stray children under the age of 18 so I'm going to wait a couple more years before I take it
    I really am curious to know exactly what I am. I'm a rather un-white "white guy."

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    what a crossbreed
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    I'm thinking we all are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarless View Post
    I'm neanderthal form the waist down, if you know what I mean
    Do you mean you have knock knees?
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    Do you mean you have knock knees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther View Post
    Do you mean you have knock knees?
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    Hard to tell with saggy balls
    Ouch, sounds like it could be painful - No wonder Neanderthals died out !
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    We are turning beer, ale and grog" into worst jokes
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    Gunther they are what happens AFTER you drink the beer, ale and grog.

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    Generally speaking, I am at my best while sober, I'm more annoying, my secretary will tell you
    By te way, it's night in Italy, I'm going to bed and I have had only a couple of glasses of wine at dinner, I'm strong enough to resist ...
    I'm thinking seriously about a good "nutritional program" My web-fitness Sensei Jeff Cavaliere will be proud of me
    Su cunnu!

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    Now this is my idea of an automated wine bottle cork remover and dispenser: https://www.youtube.com/embed/wSuH9u0kvhU?rel=0
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    Check out what we have got coming up! www.goodbeerweek.com.au/ I might have to go into advanced training....

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    I just realised Good Beer Week starts this weekend ! Oh well, full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarless View Post
    Danish beer tastes like piss
    Again, I completely agree with you, their beers taste like piss, I should have already thought that they resell their piss re-bottled
    Su cunnu!

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    They have a piss poor approach to brewing

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    I just realised Good Beer Week starts this weekend ! Oh well, full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!....
    Good beer week should be every week! Dam it good Beer is a unalienable right not a privilege!!!

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