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    I stopped by my dealer today and they had the new R1200R Classic on the floor. Photos attached.

    I like the bike but I don't care for the fat white racing stripe nor the small instruments, with their even smaller numbers. I prefer the clocks on my 2007 R12R, but my favorite instrument panel was the one on my R1150R. It was simpler and more readable, in my opinion.

    For a BMW the price wasn't bad. It is just about the same price as was my 2007 bike, which had similar options. But of course the new bike has the pricy wire wheels and the new OHC motor, so I would have to say that it is a better deal compared with the older model. The price with ESA, ABS, TC and a few other expensive options was in the mid-$16K range.
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    Richard - Current bikes: 2016 BMW R1200RS, 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2020 KTM 390 Duke, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior. 

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    Sounds like a good price to me. What a smoking hot bike!
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    I forgot to mention that I sat on the bike and it appeared to have the low seat option installed. I had no problem getting the soles of my feet flat on the floor with my 30" inseam, but the seat shape felt funny and I didn't care for the riding position. The standard seat on my R1200R is a lot more comfortable and I can still get both feet flat on the ground while wearing boots. Anyone checking out the 2011 R12R on the showroom floor should ask about the seat and ask to try it with the standard height seat if it has the low seat installed. I suspect you will find it much more comfortable, unless you really need the low seat due to a very short inseam.
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    To be honest, Richard I'm not a big lover of the twin cam 1200R as a whole. I hate the new clocks and I'm not too keen on the new cam covers either. The worst sin they commited though was with the new Akrapovic exhaust, the new one is a single inlet / outlet which has to be a retrograde step from the twin in / out of the original. I'm not sure I'll stay with the 1200R when the present bike is due for renwal as I think they've gone some way to buggering up the looks of it, I'd consider going back to the 800ST but they'd have to address some of the reliabilty and bad mechanincal design issues on the new models first. In truth I'll probably go back to Honda. I'll keep the 1200R for bit yet though - as long as it behaves, once it starts giving trouble it's gone

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    Well, my 23007 R12R has been very reliable after 24K miles. I have only had a couple of minor recalls having to do with the FI temperature sensor and the routing of the front brake lines. The only problem that stopped the bike in its tracks was a defective key sensor ring (EWS display) and a sudden-death BMW battery. Both were replaced under warranty - after a tow to the nearest BMW shop.

    I like the quality build of my R12R. It is much better than any of the 35 Japanese motorcycles that I have owned and also better than my F650GS twin. However, for all around handling, power, smoothness, reliability, value and low maintenance, nothing beats my 2002 Yamaha FZ1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard230 View Post
    Well, my 23007 R12R has been very reliable after 24K miles. I have only had a couple of minor recalls having to do with the FI temperature sensor and the routing of the front brake lines. The only problem that stopped the bike in its tracks was a defective key sensor ring (EWS display) and a sudden-death BMW battery. Both were replaced under warranty - after a tow to the nearest BMW shop.

    I like the quality build of my R12R. It is much better than any of the 35 Japanese motorcycles that I have owned and also better than my F650GS twin. However, for all around handling, power, smoothness, reliability, value and low maintenance, nothing beats my 2002 Yamaha FZ1.
    Ditto. I have 31K miles on mine and the only problems have been one fuel strip replaced and the switch that allows me to start in first with the clutch pulled in isn't working, so I have to start in neutral. I'll get that taken care of at the next scheduled maintenance. By comparison, I'd had 6 major warranty repairs on my F800ST at this point, and it had spent several months in the shop waiting for parts.

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    Sounds like a good price to me. What a smoking hot bike!

    I believe the smoking hot bikes are the RT's that the iggorant owners leave idling and burn up the plastic!

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    I meant the suspension on the 2012 R1200R. I'd love to ride one of these.
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    I borrowed one over new year whilst mine was waiting for parts. Strange season to do so, but a strange winter, the temperature was between 4 and 6 C so kinda chilly, roads were clean as they hadn't been salted. It had a classic feel like bikes I remember riding 30 years ago it cornered well and felt confident (not that I do knee down riding) and the switch-gear was familiar unlike the K1300S. The riding position was quite low with the "bucket" seat you really are in the bike. I rode about 200 miles overall and would seriously consider this bike when I choose to change.
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    I visited my dealer yesterday and the R12R Classic that is shown on my first post is still on the showroom floor. For some reason it is just not selling, although there was a K1300S being prepped for pick-up by the owner and the RTs seem to be selling like hotcakes. I get the feeling that I am one of the few people around that likes the naked bikes. However, I will say that I have yet to see a road test or other evaluation in a major monthly motorcycle magazine in the U.S. of the Classic. Maybe that is helping to keep it a wallflower.
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    richard, here in italy people seems to like only the naked bikes (once called "base model"!), the F800S was no more imported in italy since the beginning of 2010 because the F800R took its place on the market, and better! BMW sold only few F800S but the F800R is a real "best seller"... BMW sold thousands of this bike last year. the R1200R is also one of the most sold bike on our local market.
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    Isn't is strange how customers in different countries like completely different types of motorcycles. It must make it tough for the manufacturers to cover all the bases.
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    The bike is still there. I guess no one wants to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notacop View Post
    1200R and a set of old RS fairing parts might make a good project.
    And would look really nice, too (if you can find a way to mount the fairing to the bike's "frame"). A lot of people have asked for something like that from BMW over the last 20 years, but the more they ask, the more BMW digs their heels in. They are not going to let their customers tell them what to do, or how to design their motorcycles.
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    I had the R1100RS, I liked that bike since it was presented (end of 1992). probably the best bike I've ever had before the K1300S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notacop View Post
    1200R and a set of old RS fairing parts might make a good project.
    I hear that - but w/a slash 2 upper faring!


    puts the emphasis on Classic!

    my retirement bike...
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    I had a fairing like that on my CB500/4. POS! F'd up the handling and the rain came shooting straight up from the underside.
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