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    Here is the scoop we are finding out.

    The frames on both the 700 and 800's are the same but it's the fairing and for some reason grips that are different. So, before buying anything that does not attach to the frame you need to ask if what you are buying is compatible with the 2013 models. Our favorite shield Cee Bailey will not fit this bike. The BMW bracket is not correct wither for the enhanced version of the shield. BMW hand guards from last years model will not fit as well as Barkbuster and TT.

    So, it seems the plastic where bolts/screws go in etc..have been relocated. Cee Bailey had no idea until I pointed out our new shields did not work. Sux, have to send them back and no eta on the new version of their shields right now. No ETA on hand guards as well. Seems like the only options are buying BMW accessories...I detect a conspiracy....

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    To verify the above, Barkbuster's VPS hand guards do not fit the 2013. Also, I just got word from Britannia Composites that their Mirage 2 windscreen does fit the new F800.

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    Barkbusters said they will have more news this week...

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    Also, another update from a previous thread: AltRider crash bars fit the 2013. I had an issue where they sent me a crash bar that was way out of tolerance, and didn't fit. They shipped me another set, free of charge, and they fit perfectly. Great customer service.

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    Does anyone know if SW Motech crash bars fit the 2013? Twistedthrottle only mentions stuff for up to 2012 models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronkaphonic View Post
    Does anyone know if SW Motech crash bars fit the 2013? Twistedthrottle only mentions stuff for up to 2012 models.
    I had my dealer install SW Motech crash bars on my 2013 F800GS, but am not sure if they were the same as the 2012 ones. The main SW Motech site lists a part for up to '12 and one for '12 on.
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    Good stuff, thanks mate. I'll go straight to the source.

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    Pretty much decided on Altrider crash bars (and MOD skidplate, top luggage rack and sidestand foot). Does anyone know what the difference would be between black and triple black crash bars? Altrider has both those, as well as silver available.

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    Silver bars don't show the scarnage much -- I have much experience.

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    Yeah, but I'm not getting silver bars. I like the look of the bike with black panniers (Zega Pro) and black rack. But I'd really like to know what's the difference between their two offerings: black and triple black.

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    Silver bars don't show the scarnage much -- I have much experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldor View Post
    Yeah, but I'm not getting silver bars. I like the look of the bike with black panniers (Zega Pro) and black rack. But I'd really like to know what's the difference between their two offerings: black and triple black.
    I just saw the Facebook posting by Alt rider. It looks like the Triple Black version is more of a gun metal grey colour Bar so it complements the Triple black 800gs

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    I don't know if anyone else had this problem, but I bought the SW Motech crash bars and pannier racks for my 2013 f800gs. The crash bars make contact with the body work on the left side... so as far as I can tell, any impact is still gonna damage the bike itself.

    The pannier racks simply don't fit. The racks come with a top mounting bracket which, when installed correctly, don't allow the seat to go back on. If you remove two spacers from the bracket, the seat sort of fits, but the rest of the mounting brackets wont line up. There is also a rear mounting bracket that bolts behind the number plate. This was no where near lining up and I had to re-align the holes on the bike... and it's still a rubbish fit.

    So far I am very disappointed with both units. Not only due to the poor fit, but also the lazy engineering used to design them. Everything requires little spacers to be used, rather than simply building the racks to fit properly. It just means extra parts and hence extra complications that weren't necessary.

    I'm going to try to send them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronkaphonic View Post
    I don't know if anyone else had this problem, but I bought the SW Motech crash bars and pannier racks for my 2013 f800gs. The crash bars make contact with the body work on the left side... so as far as I can tell, any impact is still gonna damage the bike itself.

    The pannier racks simply don't fit. The racks come with a top mounting bracket which, when installed correctly, don't allow the seat to go back on. If you remove two spacers from the bracket, the seat sort of fits, but the rest of the mounting brackets wont line up. There is also a rear mounting bracket that bolts behind the number plate. This was no where near lining up and I had to re-align the holes on the bike... and it's still a rubbish fit.

    So far I am very disappointed with both units. Not only due to the poor fit, but also the lazy engineering used to design them. Everything requires little spacers to be used, rather than simply building the racks to fit properly. It just means extra parts and hence extra complications that weren't necessary.

    I'm going to try to send them back.
    Wow, I was just about to start seriously looking at getting those bars, but thought I might get hold of SW-M to ask if they were compatible with the '13 - I noticed on their website that part only says 08 - 12. Hope you get it sorted mate... sure they will have to take them back as they haven't expressly said they will fit the '13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offsitenz View Post
    I noticed on their website that part only says 08 - 12....
    Which beggers the belief why would anyone order them for a '13 bike without first enquiring. I too hope that Dave finds a resolution to his problem but it has to be said that in his example the title of the thread should act as a warning to all who are considering farkling new bikes.
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    My dealer mounted SW Motech crashbars on my 2013 F800GS and they don't make contact with the plastic on either side. There is a fairly thick washer between the bar and the frame, though





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    Quote Originally Posted by cchoc View Post
    My dealer mounted SW Motech crashbars on my 2013 F800GS and they don't make contact with the plastic on either side. There is a fairly thick washer between the bar and the frame, though
    Charlie, I don't mean to be alarmist but can you tell me the measurement on the narrowest point between the inside of the bar and the fairing? Looks awfully close in the photo and I wonder how it will cope with a decent side-on hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by offsitenz View Post
    Charlie, I don't mean to be alarmist but can you tell me the measurement on the narrowest point between the inside of the bar and the fairing? Looks awfully close in the photo and I wonder how it will cope with a decent side-on hit?
    It's about 1/4". I've dropped the bike on that side a couple of times with no damage. The plastic behind the bar has at least another 1/4" of flex too, so I expect it would take a serious knock to bend the bar and damage the plastic. Hopefully I'll never find out if I'm right or wrong.

    I will definitely check with my dealer when I go in for my 600mi service. If they put the wrong bars on maybe they will change them out. I know that had I not had the bars, though, that I would have fairing damage by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cchoc View Post
    I will definitely check with my dealer when I go in for my 600mi service. If they put the wrong bars on maybe they will change them out.
    Good idea... will look forward to any feedback you can get on that.

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    Looking at those images those bars look suspiciously like the ones designed for the 2009-2012 model range and not the '13. I can't measure the gap on my 2010 F800GS or the OH's 2011 F650GS due to the bikes now being enclosed in an environmentally protective tent for the winter but one things for sure - the gap between the bars and the bodywork is considerably greater than that. I would hesitate a guess that the gap is probably the width of a mans average fist (knuckle width).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanI View Post
    Looking at those images those bars look suspiciously like the ones designed for the 2009-2012 model range and not the '13. I can't measure the gap on my 2010 F800GS or the OH's 2011 F650GS due to the bikes now being enclosed in an environmentally protective tent for the winter but one things for sure - the gap between the bars and the bodywork is considerably greater than that. I would hesitate a guess that the gap is probably the width of a mans average fist (knuckle width).
    That may very well be the case. For me they have certainly been better than nothing. It will be interesting to see what My dealer has to say.
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    After another look around the web I saw on the Twisted Throttle site HERE the "SW-MOTECH Crashbars/Engine Guards (BMW F650GS '08-, F800GS '08-, & F700GS '13)" which have a part number of SBL.07.556.100.

    This is the same part number as on the SW-Motech site HERE

    On Twisted Throttle it states the Crashbars are for year '08- (F800GS) and also for the F700GS '13.

    On the SW-M page it now(?) states the year as (08 -)

    Same part number: SBL.07.556.100 - which I presume is what Dave and Charlie purchased.

    So one might reasonably assume that they are sold as '13 F800GS compatible? Although as we know assumption can be the mother of all f***ups.

    Obviously the fairing shape on the '13 has changed and the bars haven't, so the potential flex-gap between bar and fairing has shrunk.

    FWIW I am going to email SW-Motech and see what their answer is ref compatibility with the '13.

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    I bought mine from Vicious Cycle based on the information posted on their website:
    http://aviciouscycle.ca/mainpages/pr...?productid=951
    The fit is narrow but I doubt there would be a lot of bending the way the cross bar is positioned.
    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2m_...FFUVIwUjQ/edit

    Can you please tell me if you can access my picture ? Thanks.
    I will keep following this thread closely...

    Twisted Throttle site says the same :
    http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-mo...s-08-f800gs-08
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    Quote Originally Posted by qcridgerunner View Post
    I bought mine from Vicious Cycle based on the information posted on their website:
    http://aviciouscycle.ca/mainpages/pr...?productid=951
    The fit is narrow but I doubt there would be a lot of bending the way the cross bar is positioned.
    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2m_...FFUVIwUjQ/edit

    Can you please tell me if you can access my picture ? Thanks.
    I will keep following this thread closely...
    I can access your picture by clicking on the link. You can also use the 'insert image' button (third in from the right) to put the image in the post.

    My SW Motech bars fit just like yours on my 2013. I have laid my bike down more than I should have, but I can say the crash bars have worked so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qcridgerunner View Post
    Instead of trying to link to the image from google docs I upload mine to picasaweb and then right click on the image to get the URL and use that in the insert image part of this forum. Just make sure the sharing option on your picasaweb album isn't private.
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    It would be useful (for me!) to see a pic of the bars taken from the rear, along the side of the bike, to see the profile of the bars and relationship with the fairing + radiator

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    Here are 2 views (maybe not the best but better than nothing):


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    Quote Originally Posted by offsitenz View Post
    It would be useful (for me!) to see a pic of the bars taken from the rear, along the side of the bike, to see the profile of the bars and relationship with the fairing + radiator
    Best I can do I think, it was hard to get a true back view.

    Back view:




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    Thanks Bertrand and Charlie - much appreciated and gives some good perspective, cheers!

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    I've heard that Rad guards for the 2012 bikes will NOT fit the 2013......True or false??

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    Robbie it's true Folks at AltRider and TT are working on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanI View Post
    Looking at those images those bars look suspiciously like the ones designed for the 2009-2012 model range and not the '13. I can't measure the gap on my 2010 F800GS or the OH's 2011 F650GS due to the bikes now being enclosed in an environmentally protective tent for the winter but one things for sure - the gap between the bars and the bodywork is considerably greater than that. I would hesitate a guess that the gap is probably the width of a mans average fist (knuckle width).
    SW-Motech did not change their bars for the 2013...just like AltRider. But the AltRider seems to have more clearance with the new front fairing. I will take a pic later to show you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soph9 View Post
    SW-Motech did not change their bars for the 2013...just like AltRider. But the AltRider seems to have more clearance with the new front fairing. I will take a pic later to show you all.
    Looking at the bar-to-fairing clearances on the SW-M bars above, I'm sure we will see a '13 version of those bars next year sometime.

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    Who have the adventure spec crashbars installed on their 2013 F800? I would like to know how much space their is between the bars and the frame?

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    the AltRider bars have plenty of clearance on the 2013 even though they did not change the shape...


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    Geez, I don't know how I missed this thread when agonizing and finally ordering Motechs for my new '13 F8GS. My dealer ordered as part of my purchase and said nothing about new model being wider and possible conflict with the Motech bars; probably clueless to this potential issue. Anyway, I just got an email this morning that they are in and ready for pickup. I'm going to test-fit mine this week and will report back. If I'm not satisfied with fit I'd return them and get Altrider as my next choice. I won't mind it being close, but definitnly not touching or within a reasonable flex distance away from touch. We'll see...

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    I am sure they will work out! But we are happy with the AltRiders

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    Quote Originally Posted by NielsVV View Post
    Who have the adventure spec crashbars installed on their 2013 F800? I would like to know how much space their is between the bars and the frame?
    Fitted Adventure Spec last week. Enough space 9 (about 4-5cm - looks good quality as well), but they touched my knees, so Returned to manufacturer. I'm 185 cm high. Contacted TT about their crash bars (on web availability spring), but they couldn't tell approximate date when they will be available

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    We can confirm that the SW-Motechs *DO* fit the 2013 F800GS's. It's tight, sure, but they have a bit a clearance.

    It's likely that if the bars are touching, the side panels were removed and not installed again correctly, or you have a defective set of bars. (which would be very rare)

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    Geez, I don't know how I missed this thread when agonizing and finally ordering Motechs for my new '13 F8GS. My dealer ordered as part of my purchase and said nothing about new model being wider and possible conflict with the Motech bars; probably clueless to this potential issue. Anyway, I just got an email this morning that they are in and ready for pickup. I'm going to test-fit mine this week and will report back. If I'm not satisfied with fit I'd return them and get Altrider as my next choice. I won't mind it being close, but definitnly not touching or within a reasonable flex distance away from touch. We'll see...
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    Thanks Rob. I appreciate the update. I'm sure you saw this post on another thread a few days ago:

    https://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...l=1#post717658

    I also just got the following email from Twisted Throttle this morning (my dealer ordered the bars from them as part of bike purchase):
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    I am contacting you on behalf of SW-Motech. Currently, due to the changes in fairing the crash bars do not fit perfectly. They have advised me that they are doing testing and should hopefully have an update within a week.

    Thanks!
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    I know the current bars fit as several on the forum already have them installed. So I guess its a question as to how comfortable one is with the reduced clearance from the fit of these bars on the previous years models. I'm sure they would work, but until I get a response back from Motech or Twisted Throttle with confirmation whether they are, or are not, going to be offering a revised version of the bars for the 2013 model, I'm keepign mine boxed up in original packaging ready to send back for exchange. If they arent going to revise the fit of the bars then I'll probably just go ahead and install the ones I have then after finding out. I'm not doing any off-roading quite yet, but still would like to get bars installed sooner than later so that they are there in the event of an unpredictable mishap drop of the bike or accidental lay over.

    Cheers

    By the way, SW-Motech website show the bars installed on a 2013 Kalamata, so we know they fit....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    We can confirm that the SW-Motechs *DO* fit the 2013 F800GS's. It's tight, sure, but they have a bit a clearance.

    It's likely that if the bars are touching, the side panels were removed and not installed again correctly, or you have a defective set of bars. (which would be very rare)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soph9 View Post
    the AltRider bars have plenty of clearance on the 2013 even though they did not change the shape...

    Who makes those "cold weather" hand guards show in this picture?

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    Hippo Hands and they rock for the cold temps. I have taken mine off for now as the temps are getting better in the morning but Cheryl still has them on...they are so easy to put on and off as needed.

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    Update from SW Motech and Twisted Throttle regarding crash bars for the 2013 F800GS. I just received both of the following emails this morning

    From SW Motech:

    Thank you for your inquiry.
    you'd have to ask you to contact the importer in your country.
    You can find the appropriate country in service on our website.
    Thank you for your understanding.

    PS, we have changed the crash bar something now fits also for model 2013 (sbl.07.556.10000/b)

    Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards

    Martin Prochaska
    Verkauf / Sales

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    and from Twisted Throttle:

    Hey Steve,
    We are still waiting the updated revision. Regarding your bars I will absolutely accept them in return for the new revision.
    Thank you!

    [note my bars are brand-new, uninstalled and in the original Twisted Throttle packaging so will be swap out of older version brand-new bars for revised version brand-new bars, if that makes sense. I wouldn't expect they'd exchange bars that have already been installed and used but I didn't ask. Since I had contacted them before installing they asked me to hold them uninstalled and wait for the exchange, so that's what I'm doing.]
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    No definitive timing on availability yet but will be glad to have this finally sorted out and look forward to getting the protection mounted.

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    Attachment 40865Attachment 40873I like my Happy-Trail Nemo bars. I recently tipped in the woods and the bars kept everything safe and they didn't even scratch. they also made good handles for righting the bike afterwards...I plan on dumping it again just for the delightful experience - not.
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    THe SW Motech bars have saved my '13 so far through more drops than I would like, so I'm glad I had them mounted when I bought the bike. That said, I'll be spending the summer in Utah riding mostly offroad and will be taking a RawHyde class in the fall, so I decided to spring for the full Touratech upper and lower setup for more protection, since I'm sure my tumbles have only just begun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cchoc View Post
    THe SW Motech bars have saved my '13 so far through more drops than I would like, so I'm glad I had them mounted when I bought the bike. That said, I'll be spending the summer in Utah riding mostly offroad and will be taking a RawHyde class in the fall, so I decided to spring for the full Touratech upper and lower setup for more protection, since I'm sure my tumbles have only just begun.
    Glad to hear they've done their job so far and look forward to hearing your review of the full Touratech setup after you get it installed.

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    The SW-Motech EU site lists 2 crash bars for the F800GS, one for '08-12' and one for '12-' (marked 'K72');

    08-12 here and 12- here

    The content is the same on both pages, as are the images… but I guess they haven't updated their site fully except to state there's a new bar out.

    The part numbers are the same (SBL.07.556.10000/B), the pages *look* the same but the page ID's are slightly different.

    Can only assume by '12-' they mean the '13.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NielsVV View Post
    Who have the adventure spec crashbars installed on their 2013 F800? I would like to know how much space their is between the bars and the frame?
    I have Adventure spec crash bars and at the closest point between bars and plastic dummy tank is 2.5 cm or 1 inch. I am 5foot 11 inches and if I sit fully forward on the comfort seat my knees rest against the crash bars but it doesn't bother me. Someone a lot taller might touch the bars more firmly and might not be comfortable with it.

    Hope that helps.

    Sancho

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    I just got the following email today from Twisted Throttle regarding the revised SW-Motech crashbars for the 2013 F800GS:

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    Hey Steve,

    My purchasing manager has informed me that the revision is in stock. I will setup an exchange for you, and send you a pre-paid return label to get them back to us. What's a good shipping address for you?

    Thanks!
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    The part number on the bars I originally got is: SBL.07.556.100

    From looking at the SW-Motech website it looks like there's a new part number SBL.07.556.10000/B as offsitenz David mentioned above. I cant say for sure what the revision is or how it looks yet. Sounds like Twisted Throttle wants me to send the other bars back before shipping me the new bars so I may not have the opportunity to inspect side-by-side, but will report back what the clearances to fairings are once I get the new bars installed.

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