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    Hi Trevor,

    Just to say there is a F800 GT about to come out.

    Cheers Henry.



    Those in Akld/NZ know who this is. He would not have rung my cell phone if he did not smell a sale. I'm real busy at present, but feel a trip to the dealers coming on....
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    Maybe they are still working on the redesign of the brake fluid reservoir

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor View Post

    Hi Trevor,

    Just to say there is a F800 GT about to come out.

    Cheers Henry.



    Those in Akld/NZ know who this is. He would not have rung my cell phone if he did not smell a sale. I'm real busy at present, but feel a trip to the dealers coming on....
    I called BMW Uk and got totaly unhelpful response that the F800ST was not currently in manufacture but they could find me an ex demontrator. They advised that if I wanted a new equivalent, I should buy an 800GS or 800R which don't meet my needs !!! Called my dealer who advised that if I am not in a rush to replace my ST then I should wait a few weeks. I hope that is code for GT imminent.

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    The dealers probably don't know more as we do. BMW never informs the dealers of new models before the show where it is introduced. Once the news is published the dealers get an introduction with the model in real life just before the motorcycle-press get to ride them as demo bikes.

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    I'm not in NZ at the moment but will perhaps wander over at the weekend...

    Clarification: To the dealer not NZ
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    Well I've joined this forum just to post what I sore on the BMW Live Bookmark site.
    On Monday morning of this week the following news post was put up, it was taken down when I last looked in the afternoon I keep checking for news of the new GSA.
    Anyway what was posted was the following not word for word but "new bikes for the Milan show 90 year anniversay model R1200RT and R1200GSA with gold forks and various bits.?? which I guess is BMW Motorrad aniversary..? and a new F800GT"
    I tried to reload my history but it wouldn't let me.
    Just posting what I sore on the BMW site.
    Mts

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    Milan Show starts Thursday 15th Nov so, hopefully, all will be revealed !
    If it does appear at Milan then we should also see it at UK show at NEC later in the month.

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    I hear ya Mokky, but my ST isn't going to last much more than another 6-12 months without wear and tear items costing me more than a new bike. It's already getting a little "silly" in the past couple of services!

    Butz.

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    F800GT been posted on the 90 years of BMW Motorrad announcement on Facebook with pictures
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...7113466&type=1


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    It might grow on me (and often bikes look better in the flesh), but first impressions are that styling cues remind me of VFR, especially with the wheels. Handlebars are too high for my taste, but probably suit the GT designation, as do the larger hard panniers.

    'All new'? Other than bigger fairing, higher 'bars, S-style wheels and high pipe, I wonder what is 'new'. Wonder if the panniers will fit the ST (not that I'm unhappy with my sport panniers)
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    Very interesting. First question that popped into my mind was, where did they find those five extra horsies? And the second question: how tough would it be to stuff those five ponies into an ST?

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    Studying the press kit pix, it looks like a new seat and also looks like the windshield has vents at its base -- anti-buffeting? Wonder how the new Tupperware affects the left leg wiener roast [g]? Speaking of heat, the alternator housing is now much more out in the breeze -- can't hurt.

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    Thanks for the pics. My initial impression is that the bike looks a bit more substantial without changing the overall lines. Looks great!

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    Same damn stupid clocks though.
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    Any info on the weight of this new beauty??

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    Quote Originally Posted by PegasusJockey View Post
    Same damn stupid clocks though.
    Wonder if they changed the switch gear.
    No mention of cruise control.
    Clocks? If you mean tach & speedo they look a little bigger, which would be good. If you mean OBC, I never use 'em, preferring to know the temp and miles to empty. Also, based on the pix the switch gear looks very different. Better? I'll sit that one out, as I don't mind the present setup.

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    It looks like the weight has increased from 462 to 470LBS. Not too bad. I think the bike has a softer look now take it or leave it. I like the new muffler guard to prevent shoe melting.

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    I'm pleasantly surprised and not only because my prediction about the EICMA was right Looks great, just a bit more heavy, but also a bit stronger.

    I will be wanting to test ride the demo as soon as my dealer has one!

    I merged your thread with this one Tonya and I changed the title of this thread Trevor, I hope you agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danham View Post
    Clocks? If you mean tach & speedo they look a little bigger, which would be good. If you mean OBC, I never use 'em, preferring to know the temp and miles to empty. Also, based on the pix the switch gear looks very different. Better? I'll sit that one out, as I don't mind the present setup.

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    Why don't some of you Englishman chime in and explain "clocks".

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    BMW USA now has the GT on its site, with technical specs:

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    Looks good and from limited details to date it appears that it addresses some issues that have filled the ST complaints list eg handlebars [height and vibes], windscreen, indicator switches. Sorry to see the expanding sport panniers have been replaced by larger rigid items but probably extra capacity so I can tour solo with panniers only and no top box. Just more cost if I buy one --- had hoped to utilise my existing ST panniers.
    Look forward to seeing GT in the flesh at UK show in two weeks time. Any info when they hit the showrooms / deliveries start?

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    The USA site indicates lowest seat height at 30.1 inches and no "low suspension" option. What's a 5'4" rider to do?

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    With the new F 800 GT as the successor model to the F 800 ST, BMW Motorrad is enhancing its range in the sporty touring segment and setting a new benchmark among mid-range motorcycles.

    The high-torque, water-cooled 2-cylinder in-line engine with a capacity of 798cc continues to provide dynamic propulsion in the new F800GT. An increase in power has been achieved by means of revised set-up. It now has an output of 66 kW / 90 bhp (F800ST: 62.5 kW (85 bhp)) at 8,000 rpm. The new F 800 GT boasts an even more supreme drive with the maintenance-free secondary drive via toothed belt.

    What is more, improved ergonomics, optimised wind and weather protection and an even more practically oriented luggage system provides the basis for genuine “Gran Turismo”. The new F800GT is also fitted as standard with ABS in line with the “Safety 360°” principle. Other optional systems such as Automatic Stability Control ASC and the Electronic Suspension Adjustment ESA ensure that the new BMW F 800 GT sets new standards in terms of safety and comfort within its segment.

    As part of the BMW Motorrad program of special accessories, the new F800GT can also be fitted with an Akrapovič sports silencer. This slip-on silencer provides a particularly earthy 2-cylinder sound. Made of titanium and stainless steel it enables a weight reduction of approx. 1.7 kg as compared to the standard rear silencer.

    Overview of new technical features:
    Increased output of the F 800 GT as compared to predecessor model.
    66 kW (90 bhp) at 8,000 rpm. (F 800 ST: 62.5 kW (85 bhp) at 8,000 rpm).
    Newly designed trim in more dynamic look with further improved wind and weather protection. New paint finishes.
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    Automatic Stability Control ASC (ex works option / special accessory).
    Electronic Suspension Adjustment ESA (ex works option / special accessory)
    Convenient adjustment of rear spring mount using handwheel.
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    Adapted ergonomics for increased touring comfort with higher handlebars and repositioned footrests.
    Enhanced seating comfort for rider and passenger.
    New handlebar switch panels and front brake fluid expansion tank.
    New vibration-free and double-butted aluminium handlebars.
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    Load capacity increased by 11 kg to 207 kg.
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    In perusing the BMW USA site, it appears that all luggage is considered accessories. I'm a little confused. Do the panniers come with the bike, would I have to shell out for them? If the latter, I may very well be tipped to the other bike on my short list. I'm also less than thrilled by the higher, rubber mounted tiller, and the taller screen. It seems all the Sport has been excised from the bike.

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    Just got the phone to my dealer who said he had seen something from a lady at BMW.

    Thought I would post news here

    As usual we are ahead of the dealers. Just sent Henry an email telling him about the F800GT

    Full Press Kit:- https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__7589 Lots more detail here.

    #1 best thing for me "as well as allowing a reduction in seat height from 33.1 inches to 31.5 inches."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKK Jack View Post
    In perusing the BMW USA site, it appears that all luggage is considered accessories. I'm a little confused. Do the panniers come with the bike, would I have to shell out for them? If the latter, I may very well be tipped to the other bike on my short list. I'm also less than thrilled by the higher, rubber mounted tiller, and the taller screen. It seems all the Sport has been excised from the bike.
    There's no pricing yet, so hard to guess. But if the past is any indicator, they will probably charge extra for them in theory, but in practice run an "incentive" program which will effectively zero them out (that was the case with my '09), then maybe fold them into the price, as I think they did for 2011 or 2012.

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    Is there *any* mention of different front suspension? i would like to see this and demo it, but with my farkled f800st, i'm wondering if a tradein would be worth it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokkybear View Post
    How many k's, Butz? I'm on 58,600 and everything feels like new.
    Will hit 132,000kms early next week.

    Latest wear and tear item is front fork stanchions "damaged beyond repair", repair including labour bushes and seals pushing up just under AUD$1,500. I'm not sure if that's normal because I'm really a fairly sedate rider and I've never treated the bike to brutal punishment or lifted the front wheel!

    On topic, I really like the look of the new GT and most of the minor alterations they've made sound promising. Also glad it's not a major overhaul so it's likely to have the improvements the ST has incorporated since the early models without introducing new "version 1.0" issues. Will be interested to see the pricing on it. Like the black and particularly the copper (or whatever they call it) too!

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    AFAIK, all BMW GT models come with panniers as standatd equiptment. Without luggage it's not a Grand Touring machine, no?

    That rust/orange color is very nice. I had a F800S a few years back, it was not very comfy for me, the GT could be for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meHardy View Post
    The USA site indicates lowest seat height at 30.1 inches and no "low suspension" option. What's a 5'4" rider to do?
    The GT may essentially be a low suspension version of the ST. Check the BMW US web site and compare the GT to the ST. The suspension travel on the GT is 125 ml whereas the travel on the regular height ST is 140 ml.
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    unsure about that. the LS model was not equipped with a center stand due to grandclearance issues. i would assume this would have the same issues. seat height was mentioned at 30 inches ?
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    GT: Seat height: 800 mm (comfort seat: 820 mm, low seat: 765 mm)
    ST: Seat height: 840 mm (low seat: 815 mm, lowered suspension: 760 mm)

    GT: Inner leg curve, unladen weight 1,835 mm (comfort seat: 1,858 mm, low seat: 1,755 mm)
    ST: Inner leg curve, unladen weight 1,850 mm (low seat: 1,820 mm, lowered suspension: 1,700 mm)

    GT: Unladen weight, road ready, fully fuelled 1) 213 kg
    ST: Unladen weight, road ready, fully fuelled 1) 209 kg

    GT: Usable tank volume 15 l
    ST: Usable tank volume 16 l

    As a big km rider, slightly disappointed with losing a litre of fuel, but whatchagonnado?

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    I wonder if the center is still a bugger to use. I can get mine on the stand but it's real PITA. My Wee strom in comparison is dead easy even with a full camping load.
    Sorry, but a few design things won't be enticing me to blow the dough on a new BMW.
    My 08 ST is be the last new BMW I buy.
    Lost another liter of fuel, what is there about staying close to home that BMW has in mind?

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    I don't mind the centre stand...I manage it okay but it's my first bike with one, so can't compare ease with many other bikes.

    Not happy about losing a litre, but I get 430-480km out of a tank at 3.3-3.4/100 (largely wind dependent), so I guess that'll come down by about 30km to about 400-flat. Still compares pretty well with a lot of my mates who get 180-250 per tank.

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    Last edited by Butzull; 11-13-12 at 09:02 PM. Reason: mond/mind whatever! ;)

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    It could be that "Usable" actually means that.

    On an ST if you "used" all 16lts you were pushing it to the petrol station.
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